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My good friend of many years told me today (as I finished bragging about my new V70 to him) that "Volvo's are for liberals" and that I should have gotten a BMW or MB. To which I replied that Volvo was simply the best for my budget and, I never thought of it as such. He's a marketing guy and subsequently began to profile the typical Volvo driver, which he called the "upper crust over-educated liberal" and it almost fit me to a tee (beside the education part), the funny part is that I am as right wing as you get (GW supporter, conservative cross the board).<BR>Here is his profile of the Volvo driver:<P>He said that they (Volvo drivers) are likely to go to Starbucks for their coffee, and frown down on cheap coffee at places like Denny's (which they hate to eat at) and don't eat out at fast food places in general, That they wear Birkenstocks, and hate Country Western music. Which fits me to a tee, yet I am not liberal!!! <P>I don't want to make this a debate about politics, as that never gets settled and peoples politics are as diverse as the people themselves, but is he right? Are Volvo' s driven by liberals....what do you guys think? <P>Darell, you live in the (PRD) People's Republic of Davis, are you a liberal? Are all your Volvo driver friends also liberal? Do you know any conservative Volvo drivers?<P>NOTE:<P>I don't want it to sound like I am implying that "liberal" is an insult, I really don't care about other people's politics, especially on this message board.<P><BR>
 

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There seems to be a heavy liberal/leftist leaning on older Volvos. Newer ones, I don't know, but I doubt as much.<P>Same with Subaru.<P>cheers,<BR>scott<BR>(so far left, I'm sometimes mistaken for the right)<P>
 

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FHere's a little factoid for you to share with your friend. Secretary of State Colin Powell is a big car buff, and you know what his favorite car brand is? It's Volvo. He supposedly owns several.<P>On a recent trip last summer to Australia, he borrowed one of the embassy staff's 242 Bertone coupes with a V8 conversion to go for a spin.<P>Here's another. Conservative talk show host and Watergate involvee G. Gordon Liddy is a car buff and a fan of Volvo. His dad helped establish the Volvo brand here back when they were originally coming to the states, and he still holds them in high regard even though he doesn't own one.<P>It's amazing how much useless knowledge you can pick up when you run a site such as this. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P>
 

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I will pass on the names of the two conservative icons to my friend and get his reaction. As for the comment about the older volvo's being popular. Now that I remember, when I lived in the SF Bay Area (a very liberal town), I saw a lot of old 240's and occational 760's with "Save the wales" and "keep abortion legal" stickers....It never occured to me until now. Anyway, it's not going to effect me any.<P>I wonder how much Volvo's "commitment to the environment" has to do with it? Although I don't think that lib's are the only environmentalists (they just tend to be a bit more militant about it).<P>Sam<BR>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by V70SAM:<BR><B>My good friend of many years told me today (as I finished bragging about my new V70 to him) that "Volvo's are for liberals" and that I should have gotten a BMW or MB. To which I replied that Volvo was simply the best for my budget and, I never thought of it as such. He's a marketing guy and subsequently began to profile the typical Volvo driver, which he called the "upper crust over-educated liberal" and it almost fit me to a tee (beside the education part), the funny part is that I am as right wing as you get (GW supporter, conservative cross the board).<BR>Here is his profile of the Volvo driver:<P>He said that they (Volvo drivers) are likely to go to Starbucks for their coffee, and frown down on cheap coffee at places like Denny's (which they hate to eat at) and don't eat out at fast food places in general, That they wear Birkenstocks, and hate Country Western music. Which fits me to a tee, yet I am not liberal!!! <P>I don't want to make this a debate about politics, as that never gets settled and peoples politics are as diverse as the people themselves, but is he right? Are Volvo' s driven by liberals....what do you guys think? <P>Darell, you live in the (PRD) People's Republic of Davis, are you a liberal? Are all your Volvo driver friends also liberal? Do you know any conservative Volvo drivers?<P>NOTE:<P>I don't want it to sound like I am implying that "liberal" is an insult, I really don't care about other people's politics, especially on this message board.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>I think any marketing profile is going to be too generalized to apply to any individual, however Volvos have certainly had that image, at least in the past. In fact, most likely it is one reason I really didn't consider Volvos before.<P>Having said that, I am very happy to date with my 98 S70 GLT I bought a few months ago and I still feel as conservative as always. I do care about safety for my family and I don't think that is a "liberal" attitude. I really bought it because my back was being hurt by other car seats and the Volvo has one of the best seats in the business. So maybe my back is "liberal"!<P>Despite rumors, I only drink the Starbucks because my wife likes it (have to drink the caffe mocha to hide the Starbucks taste) and I really like McDonalds coffee better. She just won't let me go there with her, only the kids...<P>Seriously, I think Volvo has made major changes in the way they are positioning their cars in the market place and I think it will bring folks to the Volvo brand that never would have considered them before. They are becoming more stylish (the S70 is the first Volvo in years that had enough style for me) and of course have gotten better performance over the past few years with the turbos.<P>I think a stylish, safe, comfortable, excellent performing, reliable car is one that anyone can appreciate, liberal or conservative. It is just fine with me if the company is also ecologically aware and sensitive. I live on earth too!<P>Eric<BR>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [email protected]Swedespeed:<BR><B>On a recent trip last summer to Australia, [Colin Powell] borrowed one of the embassy staff's 242 Bertone coupes with a V8 conversion to go for a spin.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> <IMG SRC="http://a0.cpimg.com/image/1E/F0/6284830-58d2-01C1012C-.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://a5.cpimg.com/image/23/F0/6284835-ce27-01C1012C-.jpg"> <P>
 

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Wow, Michael, cool pictures!<P>Although I don't agree, here is a different perspective:<P><B><A HREF="http://www.heysuburbia.com/cgi-bin/m4/headline/01_08_17_16_58" TARGET=_blank>Hey Suburbia: ReVOLVOlution My A$$!</A></B><P>-Drew
 

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Cool link. I guess I wasn't just imagining it back in SF, these guys really loved the old Volvo. <P>I personally like the new, I have a 960 and a V70 and I find their plush interior a plus.<P>Oh well, you can't please them all.<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by V70SAM:<BR><B>Here is his profile of the Volvo driver:<P>He said that they (Volvo drivers) are likely to go to Starbucks for their coffee, and frown down on cheap coffee at places like Denny's (which they hate to eat at) and don't eat out at fast food places in general, That they wear Birkenstocks, and hate Country Western music. <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Puahahaha...that sounds just like this fellow Volvo driver I know, won't you say, Matt? Maybe no Birks for you...you buy Sketchers.hehehe... <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"><BR>But you are no Lieral....<P>Me..I'm weird, I don't Starbucks that much..I have Taiwanese buble tea. I also don't eat much of fast food b/c it's hard to find a good Chinese fast food. Yeah, I do have a pair of Birks. Country Western, eh? Not me, don't even like Jewel that much if you consider she has a touch of country music..<BR><p>[This message has been edited by The_one_n_only (edited 10-24-2001).]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by InDy:<BR><B>Wow, Michael, cool pictures!<P>Although I don't agree, here is a different perspective:<P><A HREF="http://www.heysuburbia.com/cgi-bin/m4/headline/01_08_17_16_58" TARGET=_blank>Hey Suburbia: ReVOLVOlution My A$$!</A></B><P>-Drew<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's hilarious. <P>cheers,<BR>scott<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by V70SAM:<BR><B>My good friend of many years told me today (as I finished bragging about my new V70 to him) that "Volvo's are for liberals" and that I should have gotten a BMW or MB. To which I replied that Volvo was simply the best for my budget and, I never thought of it as such. He's a marketing guy and subsequently began to profile the typical Volvo driver, which he called the "upper crust over-educated liberal" and it almost fit me to a tee (beside the education part), the funny part is that I am as right wing as you get (GW supporter, conservative cross the board).<BR>Here is his profile of the Volvo driver:<P>He said that they (Volvo drivers) are likely to go to Starbucks for their coffee, and frown down on cheap coffee at places like Denny's (which they hate to eat at) and don't eat out at fast food places in general, That they wear Birkenstocks, and hate Country Western music. Which fits me to a tee, yet I am not liberal!!! <P>I don't want to make this a debate about politics, as that never gets settled and peoples politics are as diverse as the people themselves, but is he right? Are Volvo' s driven by liberals....what do you guys think? <P>[snip]<P>NOTE:<P>I don't want it to sound like I am implying that "liberal" is an insult, I really don't care about other people's politics, especially on this message board.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>hmm,... i work in (and have lived all over) the Silicon Valley and the Peninsula; not Liberal?<P>tested out of high-school; over-educated Liberal?<P>high-tech department management type; not Liberal?<P>live in Berkeley; Liberal?<P>believe Gun Control is either a) a holster, or b) using both hands; not Liberal?<P>prefer Techno (or almost anything except Opera, which i once sang!) to Country Worstern; Liberal?<P>would prefer *any* independent Coffee house to Starbux (don't get me started on Starbux!) and eat at Dennys if i can't find a good mom-and-pop place open. not adverse to Fast Food on a road trip, but try not to make it a habit; Liberal? not Liberal? dunno',...<P>prefer my lizard skin boots, penny-loafers, or Blunnies to Birks (which i don't own a pair of); not Liberal?<P>shoulder-length hair; Liberal?<P>have a bad double-breasted suit habit; not Liberal?<P>usually go to the office in black Levis; LIberal?<P>often don't decide whether i'm driving the little turbo Volvo or my expedition prepped J**p XJ until i'm leaving the house; ok, i give up!<P>Liberals, eh? i think your marketing friend is out of touch on this one,... i may not be the 'typical' sample set, but i'd like to think that the rest of us are equally independent. (marketing types *hate* to think that people might actually think for ourselves and not be part of a herd,...!)<P>personally, i made my choice because i feel that i'm probably close to the end of my luck for walking away from accidents, and wanted to keep the odds in my favor. (seems people keep driving into me; AAMOF, i walked away from a van that was totaled from a head-on with a drunk on the freeway 25 yrs ago today and am lucky to even be here now,...) when i looked for the sportiest most comfortable version of the most fuel-efficient safe car to commute in, it quickly became apparent that there really weren't very many choices.<P>the first US Volvo Dealer was in Berkeley... (this is *definitely* a Volvo town!) that could explain a lot of the older Volvos we see here and in The City in high density and around the Bay Area in general,... but it's also obvious that the newer models have caught on with the former Bimmer Yups and Exploder Soccer Moms.<BR>then again, maybe Volvo came here first because Berkeley was a weird enough town to be open to accepting something as weird as the Volvo was then,...? <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"><P><BR>cheers!<BR>e<BR><P>
 

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That's what it boils down to. The Old Volvo vs the New Volvo. <P>The only Volvo in my extended family while I was growing up was my uncle who graduated from Bezerkly in 1962 and although he wasn't a hippy he was and is still a life long Democrat. <P>As of late, I and two cousines have since acquired Volvo's and he as moved onto Honda (the Volvo of the next generation?)..<P>I will eventually print out this thread and give it to Mike (my friend) to read. It is really amusing.<P>Sam<BR>
 
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