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What, am I the only pre-1980s Volvo owner here? Anyone else own a 122 or 1800?<P>-he who stacks pork
Anyone out there?
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Have patience. The crowd here has been heavy on the new cars, but we're trying to encourage people with the older ones to come in and hang out.<P>We're going to be switching to new forum software soon, and when we do, we're going to build out model specific forums for the older car owners also.
Howdy, I'm here,<P>My name is Scott, and I am the proud owner of a 1970 1800e. I am 18 years old, and have owned it for two and a half years. My father owns a 1998 s70 t5m, which usually take priority in terms of dumping money into performance. I was always curious about getting more power and better handing out of my 1800, but never had the time, or MONEY to think seriously about it. It has KYB shocks, and an IPD street performance cam shaft, but other than that it is very stock. It is a very good, dependable car. I have never driven a supped up one, or any other one for that matter so I have nothing to compare it to. Anyway, I'm just letting you know there are other people out there who read this forum. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif">
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Wow, that's a cool first car. I had an '82 Buick Riviera 5.7-liter Diesel. SLLOOWWWW.
I just bought a 1972 1800ES and drove her across Canada, from Vancouver to my home in Toronto.<P>She's an incredible car. I'm looking forward to getting the right mix of modern mods and authentic restoration.<P>She turns a lot of heads...trouble is that many of them are wearing Police hats.
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If anyone needs any vintage Volvo performance advice/tips, I have a wealth of knowledge and know-how. I used to have a vintage Volvo-related webpage, possibly you've heard of it - Trayracer's Volvo Page. I gave up on it for a few reasons:<P>+ my ISP got bought by another company and consequently I came to the conclusion that the new ownership made the service suck to the point where I cancelled it after seven years (wow, has the internet been around for <I>that</I> long already?)<P>+ my free "for sale/wanted" section - I was getting close to 70 emails per week for ads to be posted - never had the time to add them all in a timely fashion<P>+ time (in general)- I spend eight hours a day being paid to sit in front of a computer, and the last thing I want to do anymore is sit in front of a computer for several hours more at home (except for a quick game of Viper Racing, TOCA2, Q3A or Unreal Tournament)<P>+ life- my girlfriend thinks I have to live by the computer, die by the computer -- I need to prove her wrong to better our relationship <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/redface.gif"><P>Anyhow, on my site, I had an article that I was constantly updating (up until some time in 2000 or 2001) titled <I>"$18,000 invested, and it still needs a paint job!"</I> - this article detailed all the performance mods I had done to my 122S ("SS"), including what <I>not</I> to do (i.e., break seven costly M41 overdrive transmissions, six rear axles, etc.). I had learned a lot along the way (the hard way) from 1990 (when I purchased the car in it's original condition) up until the last little bit of work I had done to it. Everything from the adjustable multilink lower rear axle trailing link suspension setup, cryogenic tempering of R&P gears (9 teeth on pinion gear of 4.56:1 = easy to break with heavy right foot), installing a 240-series radiator into a 122, and front suspension setup geometry for autocrossing and general performance driving.<P>So, if any of you have questions, feel free to ask me, Dr. Porkmeister, and I'll gladly tell you what I know.<P>-he who stacks pork
I'm just curious how you broke all of those M41's. Drag racing, hard shifting, dropping the clutch at 5K? Or was it from really strong clutch? Which broke first, the trans or the diff? Were tires a factor at all?<P>Did you ever consider a stronger trans after the first few failures? I've heard quite a few people saying that the M410 can handle a lot of torque. Is it any better than the M41?<P>thanks.<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by towerymt:<BR><B>I'm just curious how you broke all of those M41's. Drag racing, hard shifting, dropping the clutch at 5K? Or was it from really strong clutch? Which broke first, the trans or the diff? Were tires a factor at all?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yes, yes, yes and yes. The transmission was the first to break, actually, it was the clutch lining in the overdrive unit of the M41 - I managed to hose two of those. The others were just from hard driving. But, of all the transmissions I had broken, second gear seemed to be the weakest link, right along with the third gear synchronisers. Eventually, I altered my driving habits a bit (I got older as well), and the transmissions would last just a bit longer though. The pro-built engine puts out a lot of torque, more than Volvo had really ever anticipated for the B18 setup.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>Did you ever consider a stronger trans after the first few failures? I've heard quite a few people saying that the M410 can handle a lot of torque. Is it any better than the M41?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I could never get a straight answer from anyone regarding other Volvo trannies to use. Every person I talked to said something different, and the only person who ever gave me a straight answer was Dave Rauch (Volvo racing veteran of 30+ years - he also assembled the rear end that I've not yet been able to break!) who races a P1800 that puts out 200HP. He is lucky enough to have purchased a few rarer-than-rare Volvo M41 close-ratio gear cluster sets, of which I have a theory about torque loads and gear ratios - the lower the gear ratio (higher numerically), the less stress on the whole system. I could be wrong though.<P>Anyhow, I remember having read somewhere online back in 1996 about a guy who figured out that an M46 (1976 - later 240) tranny coupled with a 1975 240 bellhousing (used the B20 engine with an M46 trans) is the thing to do, but once again, the clutch lining on the overdrive is a weak link.<P>Last year, I stumbled upon an Australian website that documented <A HREF="http://wwwrsphysse.anu.edu.au/~amh110/supra_in_volvo.htm" TARGET=_blank>using a Toyota Supra 5-speed tranny</A> hooked up to a B21/B23 with great success, although Toyota suggests that it cannot handle more than 250HP, so I am guessing it is not the same transmission they use in the turbo Supras.<P>So, over the past one and one-half years I've been documenting lots and lots of stuff here and there, taking lots of notes, asking a lot of questions (and unfortunately annoying the hell out of a lot of people in the process!) to find out the minute details of different transmissions' specifications/dimensions/etc., and trying to come up with an almost universal solution to fit my needs. Well, the Tremec TR-3550, although somewhat expensive (my custom-configured one was $2,195.00 w/shipping) is cheaper than the more-sought-after Getrag M51 transmissions, and replacement parts are <I>waaay</I> cheaper as well. Sure, the Getrag weighs 40 to 60 lbs. less, but once again, it's pretty cheap in comparison.<P>-he who stacks pork
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as for the original question/topic, i can say yes to it. i'm 17 and i have a '78 245. granted, its not vintage like a 122 or 1800... but its pre-1980!<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [email protected]:<BR><B>Wow, that's a cool first car. I had an '82 Buick Riviera 5.7-liter Diesel. SLLOOWWWW.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Wow, George! I can envsion you driving that big old 5.7-soot generating unit, spewing fumes like an old bus and sounding like..."clack-clack-clack-clack-clack"! <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/laugh1.gif"> <P><BR>Yannis<P>
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Actually, it gets better. It had been rear ended, and my dad replaced it, but as it had 180K miles on the clock, it was cheaper to just let me drive it than it would have been to junk it.<P>If I downshifted, it'd let out a James Bond like smokescreen.<P>So, there was this long stretch of road on the way home from school, and (now a friend) my arch nemesis in highschool was a big bicyclist, who'd bike to school. I'd pass him every afternoon and downshift as I passed. Then he'd flip me the bird. It was our daily ritual.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [email protected]:<BR><B>If I downshifted, it'd let out a James Bond like smokescreen.<P> I'd pass him every afternoon and downshift as I passed. Then he'd flip me the bird. It was our daily ritual.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>MUaahahahahahahahaha! <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/lach.gif"> I LOVE IT!!!!!<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/countdown.gif"> <BR> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/flipa.gif"> <BR> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/2up.gif"> <P> <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/thefinger_red.gif"> <P>Yannis<P><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GrecianVolvo:<BR><B> <BR>MUaahahahahahahahaha! <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/lach.gif"> I LOVE IT!!!!!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>How long have you been saving those for just the right time? <IMG SRC="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/yellows/rotaeye.gif"> <P>
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