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The problem of this prospect, particularry in dry conditions, is obvious. However, considering I don't track the car, and don't do drag strip launches, I was thinking it may be an option for inproving the horrendous turning circle and possibly increasing visual appeal, while lowering rotational mass. Any thoughts? Anyone done this on an R or another vehicle? Thanks.
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (carsonlake)

Your not gonna help the turning radious unless you get rid of the AWD. It's just a problem with all 4x4 (while 4 x 4 is engaged) and AWD drive cars. I would asume the skinner tires would look very bad on the car and also change the load factor rating on the tires.
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (ForceReconTrojan)

I simply meant by getting a different wheel other than the Pegs... which aren't my favorite... just my opinion of course.<br>
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (carsonlake) (KillerB)<p>Your not gonna help the turning radious unless you get rid of the AWD. It's just a problem with all 4x4 (while 4 x 4 is engaged) and AWD drive cars. I would asume the skinner tires would look very bad on the car and also change the load factor rating on the tires.<p>You're right about the AWD, I was just hoping to help a little bit and maybe get rid of some wheel rub. No matter what you do the thing will still have the turning radius of a semi. Also, where might anyone reccomend looking for reasonably priced aftermarket wheels? I like the Ronal Norkap wheels best so far.<p><A HREF="http://www.ronalusa.com/cars/volvo_s60r.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ronalusa.com/cars/volvo_s60r.html</A> (bottom of page)
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (carsonlake)

Thanks, I agree since thats my Ti R in the picture <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (ForceReconTrojan)

Then you obviously have good taste. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (carsonlake)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carsonlake</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The problem of this prospect, particularry in dry conditions, is obvious. However, considering I don't track the car, and don't do drag strip launches, I was thinking it may be an option for inproving the horrendous turning circle and possibly increasing visual appeal, while lowering rotational mass. Any thoughts? Anyone done this on an R or another vehicle? Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have 17 x 7.5 inch Konig Tuner II wheels with the OEM PZero Rossos on my V70R for Summer use. I'm completely happy with them, and they are 3.7 lbs. lighter than the stock 17" Pegs (I weighed all 4 Konig wheels and all 4 Pegs). Because they have a 35 mm offset, rather than the 46 mm stock offset, the wheels and tires appear to fill the fenders a little better, without any rubbing, although I had no rubbing problem with the stock setup. I originally bought these narrower wheels with the intention of using them in winter with my Bridgestone Blizzaks, but once I saw that the spokes stick out from the rim, and the fact that they are much harder to wash the salt off of than the Pegs, I decided to use them for warm weather. Plus, I wanted to use the lighter wheels for 9 months out of the year, rather than only 3 months. I feel no decrease in handling with the narrower wheels, and the decreased unsprung weight is a very good thing. By the way, the Konig wheels are relatively inexpensive, so if you bend one, they won't set you back major dollars, but they don't have the quality of more expensive wheels.<p>I meant to add: my half-inch narrower wheels don't (and weren't meant to) decrease the turning radius, as others have already noted.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MAC1LSR at 12:15 PM 4-24-2006</i>
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (KillerB)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KillerB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's just a problem with all 4x4 (while 4 x 4 is engaged) and AWD drive cars. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>NOT TRUE! My girlfriend's Impreza 2.5RS has an extremely tight turning radius.
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (phuz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>phuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>NOT TRUE! My girlfriend's Impreza 2.5RS has an extremely tight turning radius.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Right, I don't think it is an AWD issue, but a Volvo P2 chassis issue.
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (KillerB)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KillerB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your not gonna help the turning radious unless you get rid of the AWD. It's just a problem with all 4x4 (while 4 x 4 is engaged) and AWD drive cars. I would asume the skinner tires would look very bad on the car and also change the load factor rating on the tires.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>nope, has nothing to do with AWD. the combo of wide tires and a chassis that was never designed to take them is what does it.<p>
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (SilverS60RNYC)

The Impreza's tighter turning radius is due to the car being 3feet long. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (carsonlake)

The wide turning circle is a chasis thing. Narrower wheels would afford some lighter weight, but you would probably lose some grip, albeit only at higher cornering loads, which you already said that you probably won't see.
 

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Re: Anyone gone with narrower wheels? (KillerB)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KillerB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your not gonna help the turning radious unless you get rid of the AWD.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, 225/45x17s on a wheel with an increased offset (whether with a 10mm spacer or a lower ET), <B>WILL</B> tighten the turning radius, <B>IF</B> you have the dealer adjust the turning stops.
 

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Kelly is right. It is the turning stops that need to be adjusted. Just switching to smaller wheels and tires isn't going do very much.<br>I believe somebody here actually did just that (put a smaller stop in) to get a better turning radius.
 

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I asked Volvo in 1993 if the turning radius was going to improve with the 2005 model year. they said no. they said that the turning radius was dictated by the I5 enging configuration, and they would stay with that engine until the new platform is out. Hence, no change in turning radius. You might be able to improve a few inches by modifications, but why all the hassel for a few inches. If you could improve it 5 to 6 feet, then that would be something. oclv
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>oclv</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I asked Volvo in 1993 if the turning radius was going to improve with the 2005 model year. they said no. they said that the turning radius was dictated by the I5 enging configuration, and they would stay with that engine until the new platform is out. Hence, no change in turning radius. You might be able to improve a few inches by modifications, but why all the hassel for a few inches. If you could improve it 5 to 6 feet, then that would be something. oclv</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think if you were able to turn the wheels an extra inch or two, it would yield feet in reduction of turning radius. Only takes a small amount of wheel angle increase to affect turning radius. <p>For instance, every other S60 besides the R has 38.7' turning radius, FOUR feet less than the R at 42.7'. I <B>think</B> the only reason is the 8" Pegasus rims with ET46 and different turn stops. <p>So, a smaller rim with the turning stops of the 2.5T or T5 should give you a noticeably better turning radius.
 

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Check out turning radius ratings by feet. Our car is right up there with the Cadillac Escalade. [email protected]!!!!!<p><A HREF="http://www.theautochannel.com/newcardb/cccars.html?bodystyle=All%20Luxury%20Vehicles&titleid=184" TARGET="_blank">http://www.theautochannel.com/...d=184</A>
 
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