[kelly54]

I know that many of you have more experience with new Volvo lines..what do you expect the first model year problems to be on the XC90?

 

[towerymt]

Well, after seeing how many people have problems with the 850 brakes, and before that, the 700 series brakes, I wonder how well they'll deal with stopping this much heavier vehicle.<P>

 

[Evolvo]

Wow, that's a negative tact to take.

 

[T5 Dave]

Could be anything, or nothing.<P>I have to admit, I had some trepedation about buying an S60 in the first year for this very reason. I had no reason to fear: with only 7,000 miles so far, it's been flawless, no problems at all.<P>My wife's S80 had a problem with the door lock actuator (it would tend to relock itself or unlock itself when the exact opposite effect was wanted. Even using the manual key override triggered something to cause the opposite reaction.)<P>After the third trip to the dealer it was fixed, so now the car operates just great. It was annoying, and we were worried it could have been a safety issue if she'd been unable to keep someone out or if she had to get inside the car in a hurry.<P>But for the new XC90, any new hardware will be most likely to have the problem because (hopefully) all the bugs will be worked out of the inherited hardware like the radios or door locks.<P>Keep your fingers crossed.

 

[S.R.]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kelly54:<BR><B>I know that many of you have more experience with new Volvo lines..what do you expect the first model year problems to be on the XC90?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hopefully, the XC90 won't have anywhere near the teething problems that the S80 had when it was first introduced. Remember the soft paint issues and that mysterious 'clunking suspension' on the S80, that had like 6 different part numbers for various fixes like o-rings?<P>I remember when the first generation S70/V70 was first introduced. Volvo had just switched over to environmentally friendly paint and there were major complaints about paint problems from owners. I never hear those complaints from new S60 owners, so it seems Volvo has figured that out.<P>IMHO, the S80 was the first car on the P1 platform, that is why it had so many teething problems. The V70 of course has had it's share of problems as well, just ask our resident expert Darell, though less than the S80. The S60 seems to have been put together pretty well from the start. I really don't know of any reoccuring teething problems.<P>-Drew

 

[GrecianVolvo]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by InDy:<BR><B> Hopefully, the XC90 won't have anywhere near the teething problems that the S80 had when it was first introduced. Remember the soft paint issues and that mysterious 'clunking suspension' on the S80, that had like 6 different part numbers for various fixes like o-rings?<P>I remember when the first generation S70/V70 was first introduced. Volvo had just switched over to environmentally friendly paint and there were major complaints about paint problems from owners. I never hear those complaints from new S60 owners, so it seems Volvo has figured that out.<P>IMHO, the S80 was the first car on the P1 platform, that is why it had so many teething problems. The V70 of course has had it's share of problems as well, just ask our resident expert Darell, though less than the S80. The S60 seems to have been put together pretty well from the start. I really don't know of any reoccuring teething problems.<P>-Drew</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>We have already seen the improvements. Tha overwhelming majority of 2001 S60s/V70s/S80s and going into the 2002 models have been prety much flawless.<P>Yannis<BR><P>

 

[kelly54]

I didn't mean to be negative, just realistic. I love my 2001 S60, and have had no problems other than the trunk latch which was an easy fix. I just realize that many unfortunate things happen in the introduction of a new line, and I wanted to know if you guys had a feel for this new SUV based on the current technology that Volvo is using to build it.

 

[Phil Pugliese]

Here is one ... When are actually going to see them? Coupe & convertible intro... LATE! S60 AWD, no inventories to speak of....I have seen too many product promises from Volvo <I>not </I> to be sceptical. Phone/on-star, where? rain sensor wipers, where? Iso-fix seats, where? Not to be jaded.. we have been through this too many times in the past. <P><BR>XC90 name to be changed to X90 or VX90 w/in 1-2 years... <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P><BR>

 

[GrecianVolvo]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phil Pugliese:<BR><B>Here is one ... When are actually going to see them? Coupe & convertible intro... LATE! S60 AWD, no inventories to speak of....I have seen too many product promises from Volvo <I>not </I> to be sceptical. Phone/on-star, where? rain sensor wipers, where? Iso-fix seats, where? Not to be jaded.. we have been through this too many times in the past. <P><BR>XC90 name to be changed to X90 or VX90 w/in 1-2 years... <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Easy now, Phil...don't get your blood pressure up! I understand Voolvo has screwed up on occasion especially with the C70 blunder. But you cannot blame them on the S60AWD, I like the fact that they are hard to get so it raises the value of the car. Certain dealers (hard cough) do not have to...give them away! ISOFIX? Not Volvos fault; blame it on the US Gov't who thinks that they have higher safety standards than those found in the E.U. Big BULL$#!t! Europeans are light years ahead when it comes to safety. True, Volvo is slow (usually) in adding gadgets like the rain-sensing wipers, OnStar-like equipment, etc. But don't forget that every single year they are pioneers in vehicle safety. I don't know if you have that feeling but every time I am inside another Volvo, I think that I will be OK if the unfortunate happens. I don't feel invincible but I feel pretty close to that! And there have been Volvo firsts, as you know; SIPS airbags (then everyone rushed to copy), one of the best head protection devices (IC) in the industry, Security glass (how many automobiles have that?), etc.<P>Where Volvo has been dropping the ball consistently is in the marketing area. Look at the BMW commercials (and on occasion Mercedes)..they really stir your soul, they make you want to pack up and go to the nearest dealer and drive their cars! I have seen so many neat and creative commercials that are intended for the European market only or just never made it past the old people who manage Volvo, it makes me want to PUKE! OK, sorry for the rant!<P>Later,<P>Yannis<BR><P>

 

[S.R.]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GrecianVolvo:<BR><B><BR>Where Volvo has been dropping the ball consistently is in the marketing area. Look at the BMW commercials (and on occasion Mercedes)..they really stir your soul, they make you want to pack up and go to the nearest dealer and drive their cars!<P>Later,<BR>Yannis<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Exactly, those BMW commercials are great and make you want to drive their cars. Volvo commercials are clever, but they need to emphasize 'driving-pleasure' more.<P>-Drew<P>