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Well, my 2.4i has a higher pitch squealing noise similar to the ones in these threads.<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=80861" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=80861</A><br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=79944" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=79944</A><br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=80761" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=80761</A><p>I have 60k miles and all maintenance is current. The noise started the other day and I've driven it some since. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> Today, I got a check engine light and the code as read by the guy at Advance Auto is: P0171 - System too Lean. So naturally I thought it was a vacuum leak. And by the sounds of the other posts it's probably at the PCV valve. There is no oil leak, yet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> The question is what should I do? I can take it to the dealer but they want $112 for a diagnostic check. She's out of warranty too so I'm basically paying for anything they have to do unless by some miracle I catch a break. So I would think to just dive in and replace the PCV valve. But then the scenario plays out where that's not the fix, maybe I replace all the oil filter housing stuff too, it's still not fixed and I end up taking it to the dealer where it's now certainly not covered by any kind of warranty because I've been in there monkeying around. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>So take it to the dealer and hope for the best?<br>Start replacing stuff, it's probably just the PCV valve? I was poking around a little: isn't the PCV valve hidden under the plastic intake manifold?<p>Also, any recommendations for a dealer in the Baltimore area? I found four:<br>Annapolis Volvo<br>Koons, Owings Mills<br>Herb Gordon, Silver Spring<br>Bill Kidd, Cockeysville <- Where I bought it<p>Thanks!<br>Jake<br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Weedly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I've read, the dreaded PCV issue is with T5 cars only.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>False. Same issue with either engine.<p>Tom.
 

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Re: Another Squealer -What should I do?- (GoBerserk)

just me but my thoughts are the crank case vent is covered by Fed /sate smog laws which I think go as high as 15 years 100,000 miles. Alls I know from my Honda racing days (long time ago) Honda had an issue with EGR? don't know but the fed made them cover the smog part of the car for 14 years or something, don't know now but I got the flyer in the mail. This is a smog part and I smell a class action suit please Volvo continue to screw your customers, I guess customer service and retention are not part of socialized democracies. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://www.anr.state.vt.us/air/MobileSources/docs/WebsiteWarrantyBrochure.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.anr.state.vt.us/air...e.pdf</A><p>NOTE TO VOLVO: Take it from an oldman or from Oldman himself, don’t play Intel Pentium I stupid, if these cars are failing then you best design a part that wont fail and fix ALL the S40 / V50 out there under recall or you can basically kiss your company goodbye as a HUGE percentage of new younger Volvo owners buy this model and you need to only screw each customer once for 10!!!! Customers never to come back. But to be honest after the sub-prime blowup, which I knew would happen, I don’t expect much from the people that run the world, to stupid to keep their own gravy train going. I smell Honda SI calling my name with LSD stock and the clutch won’t fail the first time at the drags (yes I race with guys with SI <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> that go every weekend and yes I raced my GS-R for many many years autoX and 1/4 mile on the OEM clutch).<br>
 

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Re: Another Squealer -What should I do?- (Oldman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Oldman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just me but my thoughts are the crank case vent is covered by Fed /sate smog laws which I think go as high as 15 years 100,000 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Unfortunately no - this part is 4 years/50K miles if the car was purchased new. 2005 sample: <A HREF="http://new.volvocars.com/ownersdocs/2005/2005_warranty/2005_warranty_02.html#32" TARGET="_blank">http://new.volvocars.com/owner...ml#32</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Page 33<br> <br>Crankcase Emission Control System <br><B>Oil Trap with Crankcase Pressure Regulator</B><br>PCV Connections, Calibrated Orifices <br>PTC nipple, Intake Manifold Nipple <br>Fresh Air Hose <br>Vacuum Nipple, Coolant Heated <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Tom.
 

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Re: Another Squealer -What should I do?- (tmtalpey)

yep and Volvo sticks to that they can basically kiss their new buyer custmer base goodby forever <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> I don't know what to say about a company that can't design a PCV system. Dirt simple if you ask me.
 

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I tried to get a valve from Autozone/Advance Auto but they had none listed. Which made me think maybe it was only available from the dealer, but now, based on your input, I'm thinking it doesn't even exist. So if there is no replacement PCV valve available, is it the oil trap I need to replace?
 

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I may run a catch can or I may just cut the line and put a T in it and dump the otherside to the ground... works well on a VW turbo, called the elephant hose mod. Many guys did XYZ on the VW but none worked and VWs would suck the vapor into the intake and fill the intercooler and pipes with greasy slug.. all fun... .NOT.
 

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I am young... that was my first volvo ever I bought... I was screwed with the pcv valve problem with a nice bill of 750$ !! That is for sure my first and my last Volvo ever !!!
 

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Re: Another Squealer -What should I do?- (GoBerserk)

The PCV issue is really easy to fix. Just trade in your Volvo and never look back.
 

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Re: Another Squealer -What should I do?- (RedV50)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RedV50</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The PCV issue is really easy to fix. Just trade in your Volvo and never look back.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I would like to do it but I will loose to much for now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I've been thinking about doing that. See, it's a leased car and the term expires next spring. I'll likely be near or over my miles. So there is also the question of do I keep the car, sell it before the term is up, pay for any extra miles and give it back.<p>Given these problems though I really don't want to keep it. Which is a darn shame because I had high hopes for the S40. My family had an older '86? 240 Sedan that was freakin' awesome. It was totally reliable and would tow our camper and boat (not at the same time <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> ) everywhere. It's sad that Volvo has totally gone down the tubes.
 

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Re: Another Squealer -What should I do?- (Pass)

Got THAT right. KBB says My S40 is worth HALF what I paid for it just over 2 yrs ago. Does have quite a few highway miles on it however..... Shame they/WE take such a beating because used Volvo's normally "Have Issues" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I called the dealer about the PCV and Oil filter housing parts. They want $112 for the Oil filter housing, $12 for some gaskets, $30 for a new PCV valve and I should probably change the oil while I'm at it. So it's probably going to be near $200 in parts. I'm going to start taking it apart tonight to see if I can inspect any of those parts to determine what's damaged and what's not.<p>As far as the noise is concerned - where does it come from? Is it an air-trying-to-get-by-a-clog noise? or is it indeed a blown or distressed bearing? It sounds like it could be either.<p>Also, like most other cars it doesn't make the noise when cold.
 

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You may also need the breather box. Seems that most people who have gotten their cars repaired for this, myself included, also had the breather box replaced.
 

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I'd be interested what they meant by "breather box" - do you have a part number on that?<p>The thing to check, and it isn't easy, is the manifold gasket and the airways leading to it. They are calibrated holes, and if they get gummed up, replacing the oil trap and relief valve/PCV isn't going to make much of a difference. In other words, to do the job right, the manifold probably ought to come off too.<p>Tom.
 

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Sorry I don't know what the name of the part is, it may in fact be what they call the breather box, but it looks new so it must have been replaced to fix this issue. Okay here it goes. It's the black part maybe a foot long that is between the radiator area and the engine. It's next to the air filter box. it also has some wire connectors coming from it, and it has multiple ridges that run from front of car to rear. I can take a picture of it this afternoon, if I made no sense here. <p>edit: it is connected to what I think is the throttle body.
 

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Sorry I don't know what the name of the part is, it may in fact be what they call the breather box, but it looks new so it must have been replaced to fix this issue. Okay here it goes. It's the black part maybe a foot long that is between the radiator area and the engine. It's next to the air filter box. it also has some wire connectors coming from it, and it has multiple ridges that run from front of car to rear. I can take a picture of it this afternoon, if I made no sense here. <p>Actually, the part I'm refering to is clearly visible in this video posted by RedV50.<p> <A HREF="http://www.coresupport.net/bigheadache/movie.wmv" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coresupport.net/bigheadache/movie.wmv</A>
 
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