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<IMG SRC="http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/vw-passat-r-gt.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>VW is joining the party. I hope Volvo answers back with a new R with the upcoming next generation S60/V70 line.<br>To me this might be the most direct competition to our R's. The S4 and M3 are in a slightly different class, but this Passat would be a shot across the bow.<p><A HREF="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/28/reports-volkswagen-passat-r36-due-spring-2007/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...2007/</A><p>
 

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phuz drops the F bomb on this new R.
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (flybynight)

Interesting. It doesn't say if it will be offered with 4motion, and the styling is not even close. It's still a passat at the end of the day. None the less, it's always good to see a new "performance" car on the market.
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (jdog)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting. It doesn't say if it will be offered with 4motion, and the styling is not even close. It's still a passat at the end of the day. None the less, it's always good to see a new "performance" car on the market. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have to say that the new Passat is VERY impressive in it's own right. However it's price tag is about $5k too high and puts it too close to other German (and Swedish) competitors. The 3.6L Passat sedan is really nice, but I'm not paying $38k for one with Nav. <p>Now if they make a Passat R Wagon with 4 motion and price it right.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by needsdecaf at 5:41 AM 8-30-2006</i>
 

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I HATE VW's.....<p>But I actually think that one's kinda cool <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (flybynight)

It does look interesting - now if they offer a variant (wagon) version, it would be very cool. A 300hp AWD DSG wagon would be interesting, but I would wait until a car magazine beats the living crap out of it in a long term test before I'd buy any VW again. The last three I've had have been terrible (2000 jetta 2.0, 2000 jetta VR6, and a 2003 passat 1.8t). Awful reliability, and the dealers were complete bastards. <p>
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (jdog)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting. It doesn't say if it will be offered with 4motion, and the styling is not even close. It's still a passat at the end of the day. None the less, it's always good to see a new "performance" car on the market. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Remember, that is shared platform with Audi, so it's not a POS. The interior of the new Passat's are a knockout.<br>Price could be issue. VW has been hurt by high prices on the new Passat and the Jetta.
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Remember, that is shared platform with Audi, so it's not a POS. The interior of the new Passat's are a knockout.<br>Price could be issue. VW has been hurt by high prices on the new Passat and the Jetta.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Right now VW can't market worth a damn. Their brand got stuck somewhere between entry-level and luxury and no one wants to buy a overpriced German car that costs just as much to maintain as Audi or Mercedes, while trying to pass it off as an economical alternative to Toyota/Nissan/Honda.<p>If you think S60R is bad on resale, try looking at a 2004 or 2005 VW Phaeton, that car losses HALF of the value the first year along! I can get a 2005 for around 25k.
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (stevectsai)

You know, that how VW is badly received in US is very interesting. <p>1) from what I have seen on the streets and looking at prices, VW is a premium brand in Europe - competing directly with Volvo, just under Audi/MB/BMW, but above Opel/Fiat/Japan/Korea vehicles. <p>2) our other car is GTI - 6 months, 5kmiles on the car, sweet - really sweet DSG tranny, nice car for 2-up ride and shopping trips. We had to visit dealer 3 times - once to pick up a mnual which was missing on delivery, second time when our daughter managed to disassemble rear cupholder, and third time for service. <br>We leased car - to be protected against quality (if I like it, in next 2 or 3 years I will trade it - or swap before lease end on a new one buying it outright). I would call this lease extended test drive.... <p>So far, quality is v.good and dealer is friendly and helpful. Well, our frined is a service advisor there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">. <p>Kleks
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (flybynight)

First emotional stylistic reaction - BIG mouth and a BIG bum - nasty looking and too flashy for me - down to the horrid red R - verging on being ostentatious. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (gonelaxin)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gonelaxin</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm going to raise the BS flag for 2005 phaeton (v8 model) being sold for 25k!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If you can get a Phaeton for $25k, I'd rush to your local VW dealership. That would be red hot deal.
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you can get a Phaeton for $25k, I'd rush to your local VW dealership. That would be red hot deal.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, the W12 Phaeton is basically a Bentley Flying Spur for half the price.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting. It doesn't say if it will be offered with 4motion</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Since it's an R3x model, it's probably a safe bet that it will be AWD since the R32s all were (right?)
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>If you can get a Phaeton for $25k, I'd rush to your local VW dealership. That would be red hot deal.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'd probably buy one just because it's such a cool car. I sat in a W12 at the dealership, playing with all of the tech goodies and listening to the sweet motor. I know the values have plummeted, but you'd have to find one for sale to know what they are really going for. I've only seen two on the road since it was introduced and I'm in Microsoft land quite often. This car hit the market like a bag of overpriced dog poop. No one jumped for it...<p>As for the Passat, it's borderline hideous. Far too boy-racer for my taste, and the tailpipes look like they are straight off of the prototype for the next Pontiac Bonneville. YUCK! That said, I really don't think the R is on their radar screen. The car is styled to go after the affluent 20/30-somethings who can't see themselves in an Evo or STi.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevectsai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>no one wants to buy a overpriced German car that costs just as much to maintain as Audi or Mercedes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>amen, brother.<p>- Tryg
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>As for the Passat, it's borderline hideous. Far too boy-racer for my taste, and the tailpipes look like they are straight off of the prototype for the next Pontiac Bonneville. YUCK! That said, I really don't think the R is on their radar screen. The car is styled to go after the affluent 20/30-somethings who can't see themselves in an Evo or STi.<p><br>- Tryg</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I remember seeing this car at the NY Auto show and thinking that it was some kind of tuning effort and paying no attention (after all the "tuner tent" was right outside the same door). <p>Part of me really would like to see / drive this car even though I am not in the market for it. I would never be caught dead in it the way it looks now, but part of me thinks that the new GTI is so restrained stylistic wise (as was the previous R32 and 337) that VW couldn't possibly produce it as it looks now.
 

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Re: Another R to join the group (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Part of me really would like to see / drive this car even though I am not in the market for it. I would never be caught dead in it the way it looks now, but part of me thinks that the new GTI is so restrained stylistic wise (as was the previous R32 and 337) that VW couldn't possibly produce it as it looks now. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have a feeling the finished version will look a little more subtle than those picture...Or at least I hope so!<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Token</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VW and Skoda and Seat are too close together for me. I wouldnt feel proud driving a VW</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Therefore you wouldn't drive an Audi or even a Lamborghini I guess. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>If you are going to use genealogy as a determining factor when buying a car, you're in for a tough battle.<p>If so you probably wouldn't want a Mustang GT, since it comes from the genes of Lincoln LS (too dowdy of a car).<br>The Saab 9-3 is out since the Malibu (how did GM OK the styling on that car!?!) uses the same platform.<p>Volvo V40. No way, Joe Lunchbucket's Focus shares the platform.<p>Audi TT. Can't do that since it is just a fancy Beetle.<p>Audi A6. Nah, somebody might realize it shares its underwear with the Passat.<p>Lexus ES330. Hell no. That's just a Camry!<p>I could spend the whole day doing this. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I've always heard VWs are a pain to work on and for that reason, a big <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hokie4Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've always heard VWs are a pain to work on and for that reason, a big <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's a pretty general statement. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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