I have been looking for a 1999-2000 S80 2.9 non turbo for my mother. We have looked at one local Volvo dealership, they have a white 1999 with 49K miles that is CPO. The sticker price on this was $23.9K. We went to another Volvo dealership about 2 hours away and looked at a nice Silver 2000 S80 with 32k miles, CPO and the sticker price on it is $26.9K. I have found out from the salesmen that both cars from both dealerships are leased turn-ins and were purchased from the VOLVO auctions. They have showed CARFAX, etc. and both cars look really nice. I have offered what I think is a fair price of $18K for the whote 1999 model and $21K for the Silver 2000 model, both dealerships pretty much laughed at my offer, the lowest the dealership will take for the White 1999 is $19.4K and the other dealership will take for the Silver 2000 is $24.9K !!!! I have explained to them that I have looked at several independant dealerships, one of them that does exclusively Volvo's, he buys his cars at the same off lease auctions as the Volvo delaerships, granted his cars are NOT certifed Pre-owned, but he sells them much cheaper !!! He had a 1999 with 47K miles on it and was asking only $16Kobo, I could have bought a aftermarket warranty that was also 72 months/100K miles like the Volvo CPO from either Warranty Gold or GE Capital, same $50 deductible for only $1000. He sold that one the day we went to try and look at the car. Another dealership had a 2000 model with only 42K miles and the dealelrship is asking $19.5K obo for it, we have looked at this one but the color is the not what my mother wants. All of the cars are pretty much optioned the same, sunroof, non turbo, leather, no navigation, etc. I have told both Volvo dealerships this and they can not believe that these other dealerships can sell these cars so low. Finally one of the salesman from one of the Volvo dealerships fessed up and said that his dealership likes to make at least $2500 profit on the used cars they sell. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmileo.gif" BORDER="0"> Well I figure that the independant dealerships cost on the vehicles when they buy it at the off leased auctions and the Volvo dealerships shouild cost them about the same, maybe a few hundred difference at the most, NOT the many thousands I am seeing here. Also I have had experience with the aftermarket warranties from both Warranty Gold and GE Capital on some of my previous cars and have NEVER had problems with them covering a warrantied item. Sorry for the RANT but it just makes me mad that dealerships makes so much on these used cars, I think what I am asking is a fair price, yes they may not make the many thousands they want but at least they will sell the car especially at the end of the year and make their numbers look good. God Bless you all. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0">