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question; why do R owners get all bent out of shape when they do all these mods on their cars and then bring it to the dealer with problems usually caused by their mods... then they trash the dealer on ss <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by lowbumpeR at 8:53 AM 7-5-2006</i>
 

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STOP with these frivilous posts about R owners and their mods..... <p>Is this a rhetorical question and your looking for attention? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lowbumpeR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">question; why do R owners get all bent out of shape when they do all these mods on their cars and then bring it to the dealer with problems usually caused by there mods...then they trash the dealer on ss</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think there is a single post like that on here <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>R owners get frustrated when there is a problem (usually a known one) and it is denied under warranty because of a mod even though the mod is unrelated to the problem.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lowbumpeR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">question; why do R owners get all bent out of shape when they do all these mods on their cars and then bring it to the dealer with problems usually caused by there mods...then they trash the dealer on ss</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Because the dealers are incompetent in the base case. The majority of them are not familliar with the R and cannot be bothered with trying to fault trace any problem that is outside of the normal P2 chassis set of issues. Like...yeah, the brakes normally squeak like that. <p>When they see a mod, they now have the justifcation not to do work. Which is a ****ty attitude. Trying to tell me that the heico door locks on my car somehow affects how the 4C works is a load of BS. It's not protecting Volvo, it's being lazy. But the majority of us are too educated to be blinded by their BS storm, and we don't like it. <p>If it was such an issue with bad aftermarket products, why does the Volvo dealer up the street from me heavily promote Evolve aftermarket products with <B>full warranty</B> (ECU mods "probably" excluded)? Why do foreign Volvo dealers work around the problem and give the guys no hassle? This dealer sells Evolve lowering springs for the R and the S40 / V50, and with no warranty issues, including 4C. Why should RKelly get busted for having TME's on his car, which offer a less extreme drop? It doesn't make sense, because it's a load of crap. <p>Most of us are not doing "all these mods" and then getting shafted by the dealer and crying about it. The majority of us have a few mods and are not related to the problems we bring the cars in for. The dealers are simply too lazy to do this work. I don't know why, perhaps the process for getting refunded by VCNA is tedious, but fow whatever reason, the dealers don't want to deal with it. <p>Next they're going to try to tell us that aftermarket wheels are too heavy and somehow affecting the 4C sensors. As they sell their own 18" wheels at full price.<p>It's just BS, that's all. It's not like we're briging in the AtSpeed car and asking them to fix it. <p>I know a GM dealer that does work on my buddy's Hummer. He brings it in for stuff that he broke while driving it (like snapping off the mirror on a tree) and they fix it under warranty. That's great for him, but it's certainly doing GM no favors. And it's just as BS as what the Volvo dealers do to us. <p>In a nutshell, most Volvo dealers aren't used to dealing with people who are as anal and educated about their cars as the R owners, and they don't know how to deal with them. I hope this is changing with the S40 / V50 crowd.
 

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i truly didnt know this was a common issue...i ll put it to bed - BUT thats the way i feel<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by lowbumpeR at 7:53 AM 7-5-2006</i>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lowbumpeR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">question; why do R owners get all bent out of shape when they do all these mods on their cars and then bring it to the dealer with problems usually caused by there mods...then they trash the dealer on ss</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly what proof do you have that any of the mods have anything to do with the problems people have had with "their" (which is the correct spelling) R's?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lowbumpeR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i truly didnt know this was a common issue...i ll put it to bed - BUT thats the way i feel<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You should become a dealer. They feel the same way.<br>Anything "Tuning" and it is diagnosed as being the cause.
 

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i d love to respond to that, but i m on my way to the dealer with a <br>warranty problem....my wife hit a curb and damaged the wheel and fender
 

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You think the warranty is going to cover "your wife hitting the curb" and damaging the wheel and fender, or is there something else wrong.<p>
 

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/me puts on mod hat.<p>That is enough.<p>Locked.<p>/me takes off mod hat.<p>
 
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