Fellow enthusiasts,<BR>after some research and long nights contemplating the performance of my<BR>current braking system, i have decided that i need to go with an upgrade.<BR>The only problem is that while AP makes a great kit, paying 2,800.00 after<BR>shipping for front brakes seems a bit ludicrous. What i have been<BR>thinking<BR>of is a 4 piston caliper, stainless lines, fluid, carbon/metallic pads or<BR>some sort of higher grip pads, and larger rotors.<P>I brought my problem to Frank over at Eurosport tuning in Ontario, he said<BR>that he would be more than happy to help us all out, but he would like to<BR>know what is important for those people who are concidering buying a kit.<BR>To start off with, i think that it would be good to know what you're<BR>looking<BR>for, and how much you'd be willing to pay. Keep in mind, it will<BR>have brand<BR>new race/road calipers so it's not gonna be oil change prices, but the<BR>resulting kit should def. stop you fast enough to slide the toppings off<BR>your pizza (volvo tv. commercial)<BR>The only thing to really think of is that if we decide to go with over 12"<BR>rotors the car must have 17" wheels for clearance. Personally i was<BR>thinking of getting 328mm rotors = 12.94 inches for my 17's.<P><BR>If you have any questions or comments, please post here, but the company website is accessable at: <A HREF="http://www.eurosporttuning.com" TARGET=_blank>www.eurosporttuning.com</A> <BR><P>
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David, my "other" car is a Volkswagen Golf that is a project car over on VWvortex. One of the upgrades we did was an Audi TT brake upgrade at the front (where it's needed). It's much more affordable than one of the crazier racing oriented kits, and more driveable on the street.<P>I believe the S80 or the newer cars have larger brakes (haven't verified). They need a 16" steel wheel for snow tires, so there is a difference. You may want to see if Frank can piece together a factory based kit and then maybe upgrade it slightly to some slotted rotors or some pbr, mintex or ferodo pad compoound. <P>I know with the TT, the upgrade meant only different rotors, carriers and pads (not calipers) making it more affordable and also an easier install as you don't have to open up the system.
What would be pretty cool also and a money saver if we could just plug in bigger rotors and still use the same calipers. This would require relocation of the calipers. I think the brakes on my C70 are excellent already. I just need to fill in the gaps <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif">
Good point by George. I went this similar route w/my MkI GTI (still miss it, sniff) and it was a fraction of a race setup in cost. I had a friend who plopped down a couple of grand on a Wilwood (sp) kit and I couldn't tell any difference in braking power on the street or track, between our virtually identical cars. It translated to ungodly stopping power for a 1800lb. car.<P>I went w/an 11" conversion (from 9.4) which IIRC came from the G60 Corrado parts bin and all I needed was the new carriers to relocate the calipers and the slotted rotors. $500 instead of $2k. The race-derived setups have some very good avantages also, if you use your car on the track alot.<P>my 2cents.<P>
Although I would not go with Wilwood, you can always find companies like that..maybe Baer and custom fab the bracket for it. Then just get some pads like the ones George suggested. I'd go with ferodo since I have great experience with them. Then even factory's big rotors kit will do...or if you want light weight these other aftermarket company should be able to make something for you too.<P>Some guy did a kit like that himself under 1600...still a bit much but much cheaper already.
Yeah, I totally had my heart set on the AP kit, but i'm not about to drop that kind of money, especially as a college student.<P>i think what i'll ask him is that if he can get a kit that has multiple options.<P>first option__ C70/V70R rotors (can be slotted or drilled or both) with better pads and stainless steel lines, Ate brake fluid etc..<P>Second option__2 piece rotors at 13" -13.5" for 17" wheel owners. 4 piston calipers, pads, ss lines, fluid.<P>I'll ask him, but i have a feeling this is what will turn up.<P><P>
kai~<BR>why would you not go with wilwood? is it because they are more race-oriented? I figued baer was in a simelar bracket. I know that AP and brembo do serious racing, and that AP does almost all F1 cars, but what other company's have a good product/reputation for calipers?<P>
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I've been looking at what Wilwood has to offer, and they are quite nice. I will be using 16" wheels on the front of my 122SS though and 17" out back, so I would need smaller diameter than 328mm for the front. I'm willing to spend $2,500.00 on the braking system, and it would be great if some carbon pads are available as part of the $2,500.00 package as well. Additionally, having a 4 1/2" 5-bolt pattern would be nice, since it already has that.<P>-he who stacks pork<P>
David,<P>Check these sites out: <A HREF="http://www.precisionbrakes.com," TARGET=_blank>www.precisionbrakes.com,</A> <A HREF="http://www.fastbrakes.com." TARGET=_blank>www.fastbrakes.com.</A> They have done some deals with the Maxima community. Maybe the can whip something up for the Volvo community. I think there's a groupbuy on the precision brakes one for $800.00 (5 people). Here the link: <A HREF="http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?s=a709a35cb0bd9adfab29fccc304d88dc&threadid=124495" TARGET=_blank>http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?s=a709a35cb0bd9adfab29fccc304d88dc&threadid=124495</A> <P>Regards,<BR>Mike
Well, Wilwood now might just have something for tuned for street use and less maintenance<BR>required...I'm not sure. I was just told by many people in the industry and on the track commenting about the same thing for Wilwood. I'm not too sure about Baer either...but they seem to be rather popular now they start to offer more kits for import cars at reasonable prices.<P>Honestly, I would think any of these companies with decent size rotor and good calipers will do the job just fine. Not sure if all these "races" they have been involving will really directly translate the "technology" to their street kits. There's really not much science in this. I bought brembo just because they made it readily available and few hundred bucks cheaper than AP kit.<P>So if Frank can put a kit together at a fairly reasonable price, that's all you need. Just found out not too long ago that TarOx kit that PES used to carry IS very popular among those smaller European cars. You might want to check that out.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fhdt5r:<BR><B>kai~<BR>why would you not go with wilwood? is it because they are more race-oriented? I figued baer was in a simelar bracket. I know that AP and brembo do serious racing, and that AP does almost all F1 cars, but what other company's have a good product/reputation for calipers?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
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