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I am considering my first Volvo, a 2000 S70 GLT SE. Test drove it yesterday and came about as close to falling in love with a car as I ever have. I am looking for some honest advice about the benefits and drawbacks of this make/model/year.<p>The odometer reads 63,868 and Carfax seems to back that up. Asking price is $12,500. On the inside of the sticker, someone had written $10,990.00. May use that to my advantage. Actually, the salesperson just called and said the lot was having a silent sale starting today, so price may even be lower. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The mileage seems too good to be true, 10k/year? But the numbers track--it was in Pennsylvania (Philly) and appears to have been a lease, then registered in Florida to, you guessed it, a little old lady. I was able to check title history. She seems to have had some long trips, but highway miles are always preferable to city, and the mileage between Florida and Pennsylvania checks out.<p>From my superficial inspection, it's in phenomenally good shape. Doors, hood, trunk all in line, good seals, no loose hinges. Suspension tested and drove great. The engine was lively and didn't hesitate, brakes worked great in normal and panic stops. Normal drift to the right at speed, no strong pull. Steering was tight and responsive. Cosmetics were superb--paint matched, no scratches or scours. No evidence of fluid leaks, but haven't had it up in the air yet.<p>Engine compartment was pristine--I've hardly seen anything that clean off the showroom floor. Hoses and wiring harnesses/connectors all looked good, fluids were good. I have one question--when I checked the coolant tank on Volvos (I've checked two this week), the fluid is clear--am I missing something, isn't it supposed to have a greenish tint?<p>I am going to have it checked by a mechanic, and want to see if I've got my bases covered. I would want to ask, in addition to a thorough general evaluation, that the following be specifically checked:<p>1) Has the ETM been replaced yet, or any indications/codes that it may need to be soon? This is the most common problem I've seen with the S70 forums I've checked out.<p>2) Have the swaybar end links been replaced or will they need to be soon? This is the second most common problem I've read about.<p>The headlight switch recall and headlight bulb recall I expect to hear have been fixed.<p>Also, is it better/kosher to take it to the nearest Volvo dealer and ask that they do the evaluation? This particular car is on a Toyota lot, who took it in trade.<p>The other stuff, namely mechanical (lights, window switches, etc.) I am preparing myself to just have to deal with as they come up, as it's never predictable when those things will go and it can happen on any vehicle. I also plan to get an extended warranty from warranty direct.<p>As far as overall mechanical reliability, what is your experience with the S70? I find Consumer Reports somewhat helpful, but they seem to trash most European imports in general. Edmunds has high owner-generated marks, but their "independent" marks lump it with "the rest."<p>Anything else I need to be cognizant of before making an offer? I'm sorry for such a long post, and I appreciate any response or advice.
 

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Re: Advice on evaluating/purchasing a 2000 S70 GLT SE, 63k (lahtiji)

You seem to have done your homework.<br>Sounds like a very nice car. A BIT (not too) overpriced)<br>A nice buy at 11-11,500.<br>Take it to the Volvo dealer, also see about a warranty, it should have a warranty at that price.<br>As you know the ETM is under a 10 year 200K warranty so don't worry about that.<br>Sway bar links are cheap.<br>Buy it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> !
 

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We love our 2000 S70 GLT SE.<br>Suggestions:<br>Examine front seat wear.<br>All hoses<br>Water inlet<br>Coolant reservoir<br>Electronic seat operation<br>Brakes<br>Drivers side seat air bag<br>Battery<br>Computer case air intake <br>Left front turn signal case<br>ABS Sensors<br>Timing Belt<br>Drive Belt<br>Windshield Wipers<br>Volvo (Alpine) Sound System Display light<br>Catalytic Converter<br>Hood Release Mechanism<p>Best of Luck
 

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That's absurd, it's a 60K mile car and he's already loooked at the seats, <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> he said so.<br>
 

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Reply to JRL's followup remarks to Calvert

You know JRL, I get the feeling that you are intentionally goating me. While I know I should ignore your second cheap shot I'm not. Life is too short to put up with your crap so understand this Mr. JRL, stay off my ass! Find some other way to get your jollies.<p>To all others, since this is probably my last thread I would like to say I've enjoyed participating in this informative forum.
 

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Re: Reply to JRL's followup remarks to Calvert (Calvert)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Calvert</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>To all others, since this is probably my last thread I would like to say I've enjoyed participating in this informative forum.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Sayonara!
 

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Re: Reply to JRL's followup remarks to Calvert (JRL)

Oh, dear. Didn't mean to start an argument--but I do appreciate both of your comments. The car checked out well with two mechanics--only items needing to be addressed were front brake pads worn below half and needing replacements, and an improper coolant mix. There was also evidence of repainting on the front bumper (bad repainting, too--no clearcoat), but no evidence of collision damage, probably just a scratch or scrape.<p>Using all this to my advantage, primarily to get rid of the over $300 'dealer prep' fee--it's obvious they hadn't done the however-many-point inspection they claim they did.<p>Thanks again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Reply to JRL's followup remarks to Calvert (lahtiji)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lahtiji</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Using all this to my advantage, primarily to get rid of the over<B> $300 'dealer prep' </B><B>fee</B>--it's obvious they hadn't done the however-many-point inspection they claim they did.<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>??!! On a USED, non CPO car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>If I tried to pull that one I would never sell any cars <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Good luck with it. I don't know of ANY used Volvo over 4 years old that hadn't had at least one bumper painted, they scratch and chip very easily so that should be a non issue.<br>Also, brakes that are just 1/2 worn are usually never replaced by a selling dealer as they are good for usually 15K miles (over 30-35K for freah pads) again, especially on a <B>non CPO 6 year old car</B>.<br>That's normal in the auto biz. If that it, you have a very nice car and I wish that I could find them that nice with only needing $300 worth of work.<br>Forgot to ask, was the 60K service performed?<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JRL at 9:09 PM 7-4-2006</i>
 

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Re: Reply to JRL's followup remarks to Calvert (JRL)

Well, the mechanic said only about one foot of the bumper was repainted. Not a big deal, but I'm trying to turn it into more of one. The brakes are beyond half, and the same mechanic seemed more concerned about that than anything else. Again, they are trying to pass this off as "Certified Pre-Owned," but I'm not falling for that, in light of the brakes and coolant.<p>I will find out tomorrow from the Volvo dealer whether 60k service has been performed. Thanks for your help.
 

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No such a thing anymore as a CPO 2000.<br>No Volvo can be CPO'ed after 4 years old and 50K miles.<br>The latest CPO's selling now would be a <B>real late delivery</B> 02 and those are about done (for time). <p>As for the brakes, if there is at least 5 to 6/32 of brake pad left, (over 1/2) that's fair, <B>you should not expect new brakes</B>. MEASURE THEM and see.<br>If you want a better job done on the bumper that's up to you.<br>You never said if this is a Volvo dealer or not,<br>If not, how would they know anything that's been done?<br>No dealer (except for me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ) is not going to just do a proper 60k for the heck of it as most buyers don't know squat. You apparently do <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> I mean why don't you ask them to flush the tranny too, (should be done but not in the manual to do so).<br>There are things that you must take some responsibility for like said tranny.<br>(I agree about the bumper and the coolent, should be green, not good at all)<br><B>Remember this is a 6, almost 7 year old <U>USED</U> car</B><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JRL at 9:12 PM 7-4-2006</i>
 

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No, a Toyota dealer who got it in trade. I am pretty confident that the Volvo dealer 20 miles up the road from this place did most of the service, so that's why I'm hopeful they can tell me about such things.<p>I agree with you re: 6+ year old used car, and honestly if I can get them down on the purchase price with the brake argument, more power to me.<p>As far as the tranny, I feel like an idiot but where is the dipstick for the AT fluid on these things? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> I looked everywhere I could (as I said, this is my first Volvo).<br>
 

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2000, 5 speed, no dipstick readily available <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Look, the car sounds really nice.<br>Get them to paint the bumper properly, make your best deal with the idea in mind that YOU are going to do a proper transmission service/flush with Mobil 3309 (they won't and if they do it won't be the way it should be done) and perhaps some of the 60K service (like the brake fluid flush and the coolent flush) and get the deal DONE <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Car sounds too nice to piss around with some of these details.<br>Sure, if you think that the local (Volvo) dealer can shed some light on prior service, take a shot. You tell them that<B> THEY</B> will be doing <B>future services <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> </B>but you need <B>their help</B> in determining<B> PRIOR maintenance.</B> Unless they are complete morons they SHOULD help you <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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