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I have searched some of the posts on adjusting the wastegate and I am having a hard time finding how to properly do this using a boost gauge? I have read that the wastegate should open at about 8 psi? This may be a stupid question but how can I tell when my wastegate is opening?<p>Thanks,
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (ballan44001)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ballan44001</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have searched some of the posts on adjusting the wastegate and I am having a hard time finding how to properly do this using a boost gauge? I have read that the wastegate should open at about 8 psi? This may be a stupid question but how can I tell when my wastegate is opening?<p>Thanks,</TD></TR></TABLE><br>at the moment boost stays the same ...<br>also keep in mind that boost IS regulated by airflow in p2 cars <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>that means: the lower the boost was before tuning .... the higher the potentional is <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> -> reason WHY no boost-gauge in stock/standard car.
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (ballan44001)

Is this what you're talking about? You want to use a pump with a pressure gauge to set the wastegate to open at the set PSI. <p><br><IMG SRC="http://www.ipdusa.com/uploads/forum_files/wastegatepump.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (mad matt)

I was trying to avoid using a pressure gauge. I was hoping there was a way to accurately do this by only using a boost gauge.
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (ballan44001)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ballan44001</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> by only using a boost gauge.</TD></TR></TABLE><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> sad to say .. but ..... AAAAAALL R's are different<br>If you want a really fast R ... it should be broken in like you would have stole the car then <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> I did .... I heard fuel-puff's when the odo was lower then 30km's <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> ( to be honest, 1st puff after 10km <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> ... coz I wanted to bang her <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I knew it was good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (ballan44001)

Gotcha, Sorry I cant help you out there. I thought you would need to use a pump with a pressure gauge to set it at a specific PSI.
 

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You can set it with a boost gauge. Just hook the boost gauge to a pump using a T. The other end of the T should hook up to the wastegate actuator port.<p>
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (ballan44001)

Oh Christ, just shorten the rod by ONE (1) turn only and you will be fine
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (ballan44001)

<A HREF="http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00983257000P?keyword=mity+vac" TARGET="_blank">http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_1...y+vac</A><p>UPS should deliver mine today. Edit: Delivered:) <p> As for how to do it...<p><br>"Proper connection should be from the pump directly to the wastegate actuator like this: See Post above for diagram. <p>Pressurize the pump to the appropriate level for your model then adjust the wastegate actuator rod until it just slips over the wastegate arm when it is fully closed. Re-assemble and that should set you correctly." From IPD Lucky page 10 of ... <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=104485&page=10" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...ge=10</A> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by dave_n_ruth at 5:48 PM 8-6-2009</i>
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (dave_n_ruth)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dave_n_ruth</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00983257000P?keyword=mity+vac" TARGET="_blank">http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_1...y+vac</A><p>UPS should deliver mine today. Edit: Delivered:) <p> As for how to do it...<p><br>"Proper connection should be from the pump directly to the wastegate actuator like this: See Post above for diagram. <p>Pressurize the pump to the appropriate level for your model then adjust the wastegate actuator rod until it just slips over the wastegate arm when it is fully closed. Re-assemble and that should set you correctly." From IPD Lucky page 10 of ... <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=104485&page=10" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...ge=10</A> <p><br><i>Modified by dave_n_ruth at 5:48 PM 8-6-2009</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You cannot separate the wastegate arm from the rod on the R. Lucky has acknowledged that those directions do not apply to the R. Just pump up the pressure and check when the rod first starts to move, then adjust the thimble until it just starts to move at the desired pressure. I set mine at 8.5 psi, but I believe Lucky originally recommended 7.5 psi.<p>Cheers,<p>Jeff
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (soupandspoons)

I thought it would throw a code if it was over 8 PSI? <p>Edit: IPDLucky"Do not exceed 8 psi, it won't hurt anything, but performance will be reduced and you will get a check engine lamp as the ECU is sensing that the wastegate is operating beyond the control range of the TCV."<p>Could it be the gage you used was slightly inaccurate? Or do we not know exactly when the light comes on?
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (dave_n_ruth)

It doesn't throw a code at about 10. It doesn't run any better (maybe worse) but no code. <p><br>ballan44001: - Can't use a boost gauge but I have and will lend you the tool and hoses and bits you need if you want.<br>
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (Johnr352)

JUST TURN THE DAMN THIMBLE ONE TURN AND BE DONE WITH IT!<br>You can always turn it another 1/2 if necessary or wanted.<br>Such an incredible amount of wasted time here
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (Johnr352)

JUST TURN THE DAMN THIMBLE ONE TURN AND BE DONE WITH IT!<br>You can always turn it another 1/2 if necessary or wanted.<br>Such an incredible amount of wasted time here, you could have had this all done by now
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (JRL)

Jim - Folks <I>know </I>they can turn the thimble one or 2 turns. <B>This is not the issue being discussed here. </B> Your message is loud and clear.<p>The issue here is that certain folks want to calibrate the turning of the thimble precisely - and measure it per Lucky's maximum suggestion of ~8 PSI for wastegate opening. You can do that by using a MITYVAC and measure it directly for precision.<p>Some turbo's and wastegates (particularly per model year) were adjusted from the factory accurately, and some not so accurately. The MITYVAC ensures precision to get it to the point such that the anal modders on SS WANT the gate to be opening - rather than guessing or randomly turning 1 or 2 turns and still not knowing if you "optimized" this tweak. <p><br>
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (Short Circuit)

Fair enough, but unless you are racing and you need that hundreth of a second, you will not and CANNOT tell any difference.<p>You also can tell if you should have left it alone! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I just turned my (new to me) 2000 with 24K miles one turn. Well one turn was too much, so now I'm going back 1/2 turn! This particular car was about right on the money.<br>No gauges, just a very educated seat of the pants feel. The boost came on a bit too early and too hard ON THIS CAR, on all the other cars it worked fine, this one it didn't.<br>If I feel that 1/2 turn isn't better than it was before I started, it will go back another 1/2 to where it was when I bought it.<br>If you do enough of these adjustments you can tell quite easily if it's better, the same or worse.<br>When I did my modded 06R, one turn did squat, <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> but I never went back to do another 1/2 or so
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>If you do enough of these adjustments you can tell quite easily if it's better, the same or worse.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Because we've all got a dealer lot full of turbocharged I-5's to turn the wastegate thimble on and see how it feels <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>With all the 'precision' bits on these cars, controlled by computers that are controlled by other computers, gosh forbid we want to make a detailed, precision-oriented adjustment. While it might not help 1/4 mile times much, a properly adjusted wastegate (among other things) GREATLY affects driveability.
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (JRL)

Anyone know the torque value for the lock nut?<p>Edit: Isn't there a page with the torque values for a large variety of stuff somewhere. I can't find it now.
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (dave_n_ruth)

Simply tighten it "good". All it does is hold the thimble in its place so that it doesn't back-out under normal driving and life-of-the car issues.
 

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Re: Adjusting the wastegate using a boost gauge (dave_n_ruth)

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