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I took the V70R in for its 7500 mile service this morning. I'm also having them<br>look at/fix a few other things while it is there. The list is long and includes <br>several items I don't expect them to get right the first time. <p>The MT linkage has never shifted to my liking. The dealer replaced a whole <br>bunch of teflon rods etc under the lever at about 1500 miles, but it still <br>doesn't feel right. It is hard to get into reverse and first, third is hard to find <br>sometimes. I asked for a tech to drive it while I was with him, waited a 1/2 <br>hr for a tech to show up and then we took a ride. The tech said it felt ok to <br>him, and then admitted that this is the first "new" Volvo manual transmission<br>he had driven, but he said he did have a Ford truck with a manual<br>and the R's felt ok to him. I can't tell you how happy I was with that <br>admission. I talked to the service rep about this and was told the tech <br>foreman will drive the car later in the day to see what he thinks.<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I also left them with an IPD rear anti-sway to install, for which they are <br>charging me $270.00 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> This seems way to much to me but am having<br>them do it in the hope they will not give me any grief in the future about<br>problems being caused by after-market equipment installed by someone<br>else. I had that problem from the same dealer at a different location with<br>my S80.<p>I never thought I would pay someone to make my car ugly, but I am taking<br>the second step toward ugliness by having them install mud-flaps. The first<br>step was the installation of Spike Spiders. The heavy snow this year on the<br>mountain roads going to my cabin in the sierras led to the Spike Spiders and<br>the sand and gravel they use on the road is starting to do some damage to <br>the paint so I think the mud-flaps are necessary. They aren't cheap either, <br>$122 parts and labor for the front, and $108 for the rear.<p>So this afternoon I expect to have mud-flaps, anti-sway bar, poor shifting,<br>and the dreaded front axlel ping when I pick it up. They will see me again<br>in the future for the last two.<br>
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today (msawyer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... I think the mud-flaps are necessary. They aren't cheap either, $122 parts and labor for the front, and $108 for the rear.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Dang! What, does the R need special mud flaps to clear those calipers? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>$70 plus labor (1 hour) for fronts and rears....
 

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Hello there, just wanted to say hi to a local R owner. I just took delivery this saturday. I work in Hayward down on Industrial. Maybe our paths will cross one day. Do you go to McKevitt in San Leandro? I went through their berkeley location; no complaints yet.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The MT linkage has never shifted to my liking. The dealer replaced a whole bunch of teflon rods etc under the lever at about 1500 miles, but it still doesn't feel right. It is hard to get into reverse and first, third is hard to find sometimes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Perhaps this is the issue?<p><A HREF="http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Volvo/1130832000000_1135324800000_TNN43-47" TARGET="_blank">http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Vol...43-47</A>/<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So this afternoon I expect to have mud-flaps, anti-sway bar, poor shifting, and the dreaded front axlel ping when I pick it up. They will see me again in the future for the last two.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I wish you well with the axle ping. I am heading back for the third battle on this issue. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today, angle gear, axle ping (msawyer)

Well, the R spent last night in the shop and will spend tonight there as well. <br>In the original note here I did not include all the problems I pointed out to the<br>dealer. I am pleasantly surprised that they seem to be doing their best to <br>fix all the things I pointed out.<p>As of this writing the transmission is out of the car for them to perform <br>TNN43-47. (As suggested by MagoonR) They expect this to take care of my<br>shifting problems. The service rep tells me that some cars had no lubricant<br>on the input shaft and that it will begin to rust, hindering the operation of<br>the throw-out bearing. The shaft is being cleaned and lubricated while the<br>transmission is on the bench. Their idea is that the clutch was hanging up<br>due to friction between the input shaft and the throw-out bushing. <p>I also complained about an odor, that smelled to me like 90W gear lube, <br>that would be apparent after pushing the car hard. They are replacing<br>the angle (bevel) gear. <p>While they have it apart, they are doing the epoxy fix for the axle ping. <br>They hope to have it all together, with sufficient epoxy drying time, to allow <br>me to pick it up tomorrow evening.<p>They re-aligned the hood so that it fit correctly and still allows the alarm<br>to work and fixed a terribly annoying rattle in the passenger's side rear<br>door panel that was driving me crazy. <p>They have given me an 06 S60 2.5T to drive while they have the R. It's not<br>a bad car, but it's definitely not the R.<p>
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today, angle gear, axle ping (msawyer)

Sounds like a dealer who's trying to work with the owner <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>not the norm here
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As of this writing the transmission is out of the car for them to perform TNN43-47. (As suggested by MagoonR) They expect this to take care of myshifting problems.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just a heads up, your tranny will leak some fluid (overflow?) for a few days after this fix. Don't get too bent out of shape about it like I did (dealer didn;t tell me to expect this). Ask them to schedule a clean up visit in a few weeks.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also complained about an odor, that smelled to me like 90W gear lube, that would be apparent after pushing the car hard. They are replacing the angle (bevel) gear.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I also notice this smell after a hard push however my angle gear was inspected, cleaned, and reinstalled after the tranny fix. There was no mention of anything defective with the gear. Please keep me posted on this one.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While they have it apart, they are doing the epoxy fix for the axle ping. They hope to have it all together, with sufficient epoxy drying time, to allow me to pick it up tomorrow evening.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Lotsa luck with the loctite as a permanent fix. It may last for a few thousand miles but the clicking/crackling sound will be back. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> Out of curiosity, would you be so kind as to ask your dealer about his experiences with the longevity of this fix?<p>You should also get a free alignment out of this since the subframe is dropped to pull the tranny. I give a big <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> to your dealer for the effort.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MagoonR at 10:48 PM 3-29-2006</i>
 

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The saga continues ... I expected to get the R back today so that the wife <br>and I could drive to our place in the mountains tomorrow, I have the day off. <br>It is still snowing off and on up there and we wanted to take the R so we <br>could avoid the need for chains. <p>Well, the dealer calls and tells me there are more problems that will require <br>them to keep the R until Monday. They got the angle gear installed but were<br>having trouble getting the transmission back in. It seems that the pressure <br>plate is hitting the bell housing and keeping things from lining up correctly. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>They tell me that the problem could be the result of too much end-play at the<br>crank, wrong pressure plate and clutch assy, or wrong/bad transmission. <br>They need the factory rep to visit again and he can't do that until late <br>tomorrow or Sat.<p>I explained that I was counting on the use of the R to go to the mountains<br>and would not be able to do so with the S60 they have loaned me. They<br>are giving me a 06 XC90 to use for the weekend so that I will not have to <br>change my plans. The offer of the XC90 is really nice customer service and <br>for that and the way they have taken care of me so far, I would recommend <br>McKevitt Volvo in San Leandro to anyone who asked.<p>But... I'm not so happy about the state of my R. Has anyone see this type<br>of problem anywhere else ?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So this afternoon I expect to have mud-flaps, anti-sway bar, poor shifting, and the dreaded front axlel ping when I pick it up. They will see me again in the future for the last two.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Latest update on the axle ping:<p>The regional tech replaced my R's axle bolts with XC90 axle bolts (not sure what the difference is) and added two spacer sleeves. So far.......quiet. Let's see how long this lasts but it definitely sounds like a better fix than loctite.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>msawyer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I also left them with an IPD rear anti-sway to install, for which they are <br>charging me $270.00 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> This seems way to much to me but am having<br>them do it in the hope they will not give me any grief in the future about<br>problems being caused by after-market equipment installed by someone<br>else. I had that problem from the same dealer at a different location with<br>my S80.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>$270 does seem a tad steep; my dealer charged $150 though they were able to do it w/o SUM recalibration which would have pushed up the cost if done
 
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