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I took the V70R in for its 7500 mile service this morning. I'm also having them
look at/fix a few other things while it is there. The list is long and includes
several items I don't expect them to get right the first time.

The MT linkage has never shifted to my liking. The dealer replaced a whole
bunch of teflon rods etc under the lever at about 1500 miles, but it still
doesn't feel right. It is hard to get into reverse and first, third is hard to find
sometimes. I asked for a tech to drive it while I was with him, waited a 1/2
hr for a tech to show up and then we took a ride. The tech said it felt ok to
him, and then admitted that this is the first "new" Volvo manual transmission
he had driven, but he said he did have a Ford truck with a manual
and the R's felt ok to him. I can't tell you how happy I was with that
admission. I talked to the service rep about this and was told the tech
foreman will drive the car later in the day to see what he thinks.


I also left them with an IPD rear anti-sway to install, for which they are
charging me $270.00
This seems way to much to me but am having
them do it in the hope they will not give me any grief in the future about
problems being caused by after-market equipment installed by someone
else. I had that problem from the same dealer at a different location with
my S80.

I never thought I would pay someone to make my car ugly, but I am taking
the second step toward ugliness by having them install mud-flaps. The first
step was the installation of Spike Spiders. The heavy snow this year on the
mountain roads going to my cabin in the sierras led to the Spike Spiders and
the sand and gravel they use on the road is starting to do some damage to
the paint so I think the mud-flaps are necessary. They aren't cheap either,
$122 parts and labor for the front, and $108 for the rear.

So this afternoon I expect to have mud-flaps, anti-sway bar, poor shifting,
and the dreaded front axlel ping when I pick it up. They will see me again
in the future for the last two.
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today (msawyer)

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... I think the mud-flaps are necessary. They aren't cheap either, $122 parts and labor for the front, and $108 for the rear.

Dang! What, does the R need special mud flaps to clear those calipers?


$70 plus labor (1 hour) for fronts and rears....
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today (msawyer)

Hello there, just wanted to say hi to a local R owner. I just took delivery this saturday. I work in Hayward down on Industrial. Maybe our paths will cross one day. Do you go to McKevitt in San Leandro? I went through their berkeley location; no complaints yet.
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today (msawyer)

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The MT linkage has never shifted to my liking. The dealer replaced a whole bunch of teflon rods etc under the lever at about 1500 miles, but it still doesn't feel right. It is hard to get into reverse and first, third is hard to find sometimes.

Perhaps this is the issue?

http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Vol...43-47/

Quote, originally posted by msawyer »
So this afternoon I expect to have mud-flaps, anti-sway bar, poor shifting, and the dreaded front axlel ping when I pick it up. They will see me again in the future for the last two.

I wish you well with the axle ping. I am heading back for the third battle on this issue.
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today, angle gear, axle ping (msawyer)

Well, the R spent last night in the shop and will spend tonight there as well.
In the original note here I did not include all the problems I pointed out to the
dealer. I am pleasantly surprised that they seem to be doing their best to
fix all the things I pointed out.

As of this writing the transmission is out of the car for them to perform
TNN43-47. (As suggested by MagoonR) They expect this to take care of my
shifting problems. The service rep tells me that some cars had no lubricant
on the input shaft and that it will begin to rust, hindering the operation of
the throw-out bearing. The shaft is being cleaned and lubricated while the
transmission is on the bench. Their idea is that the clutch was hanging up
due to friction between the input shaft and the throw-out bushing.

I also complained about an odor, that smelled to me like 90W gear lube,
that would be apparent after pushing the car hard. They are replacing
the angle (bevel) gear.

While they have it apart, they are doing the epoxy fix for the axle ping.
They hope to have it all together, with sufficient epoxy drying time, to allow
me to pick it up tomorrow evening.

They re-aligned the hood so that it fit correctly and still allows the alarm
to work and fixed a terribly annoying rattle in the passenger's side rear
door panel that was driving me crazy.

They have given me an 06 S60 2.5T to drive while they have the R. It's not
a bad car, but it's definitely not the R.
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today, angle gear, axle ping (msawyer)

Sounds like a dealer who's trying to work with the owner http://********************/smile/emthup.gif http://********************/smile/emthup.gif
not the norm here
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today, angle gear, axle ping (msawyer)

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As of this writing the transmission is out of the car for them to perform TNN43-47. (As suggested by MagoonR) They expect this to take care of myshifting problems.

Just a heads up, your tranny will leak some fluid (overflow?) for a few days after this fix. Don't get too bent out of shape about it like I did (dealer didn;t tell me to expect this). Ask them to schedule a clean up visit in a few weeks.

Quote, originally posted by msawyer »
I also complained about an odor, that smelled to me like 90W gear lube, that would be apparent after pushing the car hard. They are replacing the angle (bevel) gear.

I also notice this smell after a hard push however my angle gear was inspected, cleaned, and reinstalled after the tranny fix. There was no mention of anything defective with the gear. Please keep me posted on this one.

Quote, originally posted by msawyer »
While they have it apart, they are doing the epoxy fix for the axle ping. They hope to have it all together, with sufficient epoxy drying time, to allow me to pick it up tomorrow evening.

Lotsa luck with the loctite as a permanent fix. It may last for a few thousand miles but the clicking/crackling sound will be back.
Out of curiosity, would you be so kind as to ask your dealer about his experiences with the longevity of this fix?

You should also get a free alignment out of this since the subframe is dropped to pull the tranny. I give a big http://********************/smile/emthup.gif to your dealer for the effort.

Modified by MagoonR at 10:48 PM 3-29-2006
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today (msawyer)

The saga continues ... I expected to get the R back today so that the wife
and I could drive to our place in the mountains tomorrow, I have the day off.
It is still snowing off and on up there and we wanted to take the R so we
could avoid the need for chains.

Well, the dealer calls and tells me there are more problems that will require
them to keep the R until Monday. They got the angle gear installed but were
having trouble getting the transmission back in. It seems that the pressure
plate is hitting the bell housing and keeping things from lining up correctly.

They tell me that the problem could be the result of too much end-play at the
crank, wrong pressure plate and clutch assy, or wrong/bad transmission.
They need the factory rep to visit again and he can't do that until late
tomorrow or Sat.

I explained that I was counting on the use of the R to go to the mountains
and would not be able to do so with the S60 they have loaned me. They
are giving me a 06 XC90 to use for the weekend so that I will not have to
change my plans. The offer of the XC90 is really nice customer service and
for that and the way they have taken care of me so far, I would recommend
McKevitt Volvo in San Leandro to anyone who asked.

But... I'm not so happy about the state of my R. Has anyone see this type
of problem anywhere else ?
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today (msawyer)

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So this afternoon I expect to have mud-flaps, anti-sway bar, poor shifting, and the dreaded front axlel ping when I pick it up. They will see me again in the future for the last two.

Latest update on the axle ping:

The regional tech replaced my R's axle bolts with XC90 axle bolts (not sure what the difference is) and added two spacer sleeves. So far.......quiet. Let's see how long this lasts but it definitely sounds like a better fix than loctite.
 

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Re: 7500 mile service today (msawyer)

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I also left them with an IPD rear anti-sway to install, for which they are
charging me $270.00
This seems way to much to me but am having
them do it in the hope they will not give me any grief in the future about
problems being caused by after-market equipment installed by someone
else. I had that problem from the same dealer at a different location with
my S80.

$270 does seem a tad steep; my dealer charged $150 though they were able to do it w/o SUM recalibration which would have pushed up the cost if done
 
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