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How much did your 7,500 service cost? <P>My service dept. tried to charge me $225 for a diagnostic and safety check. He said they spend 2 hours labor going over the entire car. Sure they do. The manual says to change oil and filter, inspect tranny fluid, battery, and tires. <P>I just had the oil and filter change performed at a still expensive 40 bucks. Was just wondering what other members have experienced at their service dept.<P>Lastly, my dealer did not reset the service light. Does anyone know how to make this light go off? Please don't tell me I need to take it back to the dealer. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.<P>Frank<P><P>
 

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Frankly I find the service cost to be rediculous, nothing short. While I know other dealers of other brands are not much better, this is a racket if you ask me.<P>The real cost of a 7500/15000 etc... is about 1 hour labor and parts. This is assuming it is done right. I personally would like to watch over them as I don't think all mechanics are created equal, just like all people in my occupation are not. There are some who take a bit more pride in their work.<P>I take my car to an independant shop where the sitting room is overlooking the shop floor and you can watch your car get worked on. <P>They did my 7500 for $99 and I only had to supply my own oil (as they don't sell Amsoil) and that cost me about $35. So all told it was $134 and this was a first class job with no greasy fingerprints on the car and no oil spilled on the engine like the dealership did to my 960.
 

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This procedure works for me to reset the service light on my S80:<P>Turn the key to position I.<BR>With your left hand, push in and hold the button that resets/selects the trip meter.<BR>While holding the button In, turn the key to position II.<BR>When the service light starts blinking, release the button.<BR>Turn off the ignition.<P>The service light should now remain Off the next time you turn on the ignition. Some owners report a dealer charge of $50 to reset the light as part of the (every) 7500 mile full service "package". So you may have just saved yourself $50. You can save even more by rotating the tires yourself as well (buy an inexpensive 1/2"-drive torque wrench (mine cost $5) and a 19mM 6-point socket).
 

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Thanks very much for your responses, especially for the info about resetting the service light. I will try it this evening and let you know if it works.<P>Frank<P>
 

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I had a 15,000k maintenance service performed 5 months ago and it ended up costing me $98.93 Cdn. including parts and labor. Included in the service was lube, oil, filter/gasket, safety inspection, brake wear. I was even given a '01 V70 T5 as a loaner for the day. I must admit that I have'nt experienced any problems with servicing my '01 XC since taking possession of it almost 11 months ago. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif">
 

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Doesn't anyone do this kinda stuff themselves? I'm not a certified mechanic, but I know my way around a car. I won't let my parents pay for something as simple as an oil change, tire rotation, or other basic checks and maintenance. Maybe it's just that I enjoy working on cars, who knows.<P><BR>Anyway, I had a nightmare of a time changing the oil on my mother's XC. Couldn't get the filter off. It was an odd thing, had to take off the filter, replace the paper inside and reuse the filter. The filter housing was plastic, so the metal band wrenches slipped and all cap wrenches were either too small or too big. So I called Volvo and found out that its a special size and they wanted $60 for the wrench <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/eek.gif">, so I just hung up on the guy before I could blow up at him <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/mad.gif">. Anyway, I went to a NAPA auto parts and got an adjustable nylon kinda wrench thing and that finally got it off.<P><BR>I also do the tire rotations myself. What's this about a torque wrench for changing tires? I just turn the lug nuts (or lug bolts) until they're tight <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P><BR>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by anony00gt:<BR><B>Doesn't anyone do this kinda stuff themselves?<BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE></B><P>I did.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><BR>The filter housing was plastic, so the metal band wrenches slipped<BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE></B><P>I used a $1.98 metal band wrench with no problems at all. After changing it the first time myself, I just put the housing on hand-tight, and didn't have to use a wrench again. Because of the O-ring seal, tigher doesn't make it less likely to leak.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><BR>found out that its a special size and they wanted $60 for the wrench :eek<BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE></B><P>You seriously should have visited my sale earlier. I had that very wrench that I pretty much gave away (to a good friend though, so all is not lost).<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><BR>I also do the tire rotations myself. What's this about a torque wrench for changing tires? I just turn the lug nuts (or lug bolts) until they're tight <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oooh. I hope the smiley means you're kidding. Be rude to warp your rotors trying to save a few bucks.<P>I'm glad to hear there are others doing the simple tasks themselves. But there really is very little beyond these basics that mere owner can do. No service manual really makes it tough...<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by n0v8or:<BR><B>This procedure works for me to reset the service light on my S80:<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"> this is by far the best way to do the 7500 mile service. Change your oil and reset your light. You're done in half an hour, and it cost you $10. If something else needs doing, it had better be a warranty item.<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by anony00gt:<BR><B>I also do the tire rotations myself. What's this about a torque wrench for changing tires? I just turn the lug nuts (or lug bolts) until they're tight <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Like Darell mentioned above, I hope your kidding! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> If you turn the bolts until they are too tight, the rotors will warp, especially if there is any rust between the actual wheel and the end of the rotor housing. That is why it is always a good idea to have a torque wrench when you are putting the lugs back on your car. This will make sure that the wheels are tightened to the correcty.<P>-Drew<P><P>
 

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Actually, I don't use a torque wrench on the wheels. Is there something different about lug bolts that can warp the rotors if they're too tight? I've never used a torque wrench when changing a tire in my life, and I've never had a problem with warped rotors. The only thing different about the XC than any other tire I've ever changed is that its the only one with lug bolts instead of lug nuts. Does this mean that I have to keep a torque wrench in my trunk in case I get a flat tire so I can torque the spare too? What are they supposed to be torqued to?<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/confused.gif"><P><BR><P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by anony00gt:<BR><B>I've never used a torque wrench when changing a tire in my life, and I've never had a problem with warped rotors.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You've been very lucky. The new Volvos are a bit more susceptable to rotor warp than other cars you may be familiar with.<P>I do, in fact, keep a torque wrench in the tool bag in the car.<P>The best torque to use is what is specified in your owner's manual. I'd tell you what *I* think it should be, but I had conflicting numbers from three sources, and wouldn't want to be blamed for giving you wrong info <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/frown.gif"> Plus the XC may be different than my T5 was.<P>
 

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Yes, I also keep a cheap torque wrench and 19mM socket in my trunk. Not so much to install the bolts, but to remove them. This wrench gives me a lot more leverage than the one that comes with the car.<P>Regarding the specific torque, uniformity is more important than force. In other words, having all 5 bolts off by 15 foot pounds will not warp the rotor, but having 2 of the 5 tightened 15 ft-lbs lower than the other 3 could. <P>I seem to recall that the V70 and S80 models are around 100 foot pounds. Don't tighten to this level in a single pass.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by n0v8or:<BR><B>Regarding the specific torque, uniformity is more important than force. In other words, having all 5 bolts off by 15 foot pounds will not warp the rotor, but having 2 of the 5 tightened 15 ft-lbs lower than the other 3 could.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>I posted this on a Mustang forum and that's exactly what the people there said. I always tighten them in a star pattern, and as uniformly as I can. Maybe I've been lucky so far. Guess I'm gonna have to start torquing the lug nuts.<BR><P>
 

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I got a guy fired from a tire shop several years back. I had just bought new alloy wheels for my truck - and was having new tires mounted. The tire jocky spun one nut on with his air wrench and ruined the wheel. The wheel was not snugged up to the hub (since this was the first nut) and he spun that first nut on with the full force of his air wrench. It was ugly, and they had a hell of a time just extracting the one nut that he'd pretty much burried in my rim crooked. Ug.<P>Torque is a good thing. Use it wisely.<P>
 

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Re: (Phil Pugliese)

Reset service light sequence-set key to number one position, then hold trip meter reset down for 5 sec, then turn to position two, hold for 5 sec again. I saw this equence on a Volvo site yesterday for an S80 and can't vouch for it. Good luck! My dealer sold me an oil filter wrench for 12.95-overall, they are good guys.
 

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<p> Some owners report a dealer charge of $50 to reset the light as part of the (every) 7500 mile full service "package". QUOTE]<p>WHAT???<br>This is part of the service. Takes about 30 seconds <br>That would be dishonest, and immoral.<br>JRL
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>anony00gt</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesn't anyone do this kinda stuff themselves? I'm not a certified mechanic, but I know my way around a car.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've known cars and their inner workings for years and before I had kids, I would have amputated an arm before I'd let some dealer mechanic lay his grimies on my car. Now, constrained for time, I have the 15k interval services done at a reputable shop/dealer (supply my own oil) and do the light maintenance (other oil changes, etc) in-between myself. <p>Even tire rotations without a rack are a PITA as the lift points aren't conducive to jack-stand use, so without two floor jacks, even a same-side rotation becomes a risk of having the car fall on something (like me).<p>With a few notable exceptions, I think the dealers/indie shops who work on these higher-end cars tend to be better equipped skill and give-a-damn wise, so I feel somewhat more secure letting them do the work. I'll still double-check most things myself afterwards to make sure it looks correct, but this is a far cry from dumping a whole Saturday for a DIY effort.<p>I'm sure many others are in the same boat...<br>
 

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Gee - let's see - do I want some minimum wage - dope smoking- greasy-fingered - tatooed "dude" getting his hands on my car for "SIMPLE OIL CHANGES AND TIRE ROTATIONS?" No. Perhaps some of you don't wish to soil your Ralph Lauren shirts. Me? I LIKE TO WORK ON MY CAR. <br>Y'all need to buy Beemers or Benzs, for God's sake.<br>Two hundred bucks to do a 7,500 service?<br>Buy a creeper and get to know your car.<br>Y"all need to check out <A HREF="http://www.mach1registry.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mach1registry.com</A> - a place I frequent - where men still get their nails dirty.<br>Sorry - I need to go find my Armani overalls and check the air pressure in my right rear! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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