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well i have a question, i saw that a lot of people use 10W30, here my dealer use 5W50, we have to type of weathers, most of the time right now is like 100F degrees and the rest of the year is 35-40F degrees(like 4 month by year)<p>I know my car runs hard everyday cause i like to enjoy my setup, so is fine that oil? or should i get some Mobil 1 10W30????
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (volvos60t5x)

Bad idea, you can run 10 w 40 in the summers, but <B>not</B> 10 w 50
 

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here they dont have any other oil for my bad luck
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bad idea, you can run 10 w 40 in the summers, but <B>not</B> 10 w 50</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You want to use it in winter?<br>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You want to use it in winter?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>NO, read what h (and I) said.<br>I said 10-40 for his hot summers, not 10-50<br>He didn't say anything about the winter (which doesn't get all that cold there anyway)
 

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Use 10/30 or 10/40 Mobil 1 in the summer in Texas. Use 5/30 for the cooler months.<p>50 weight is way too thick for that engine.
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (volvos60t5x)

For the summer it is the perfect oil for your engine setup.<p>For winter you might go with the 30 grade although it appears the 5W-50 has good cold start capabilities also.<p>The 5w-50 will give the better constant viscosity over a wider temperature range, 30 grade will be way to "thin" in hot summers. If you do track stuff, drag race etc. you will wreck your engine and specially your turbo using 30 graden in 100ºF weather.. <p>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Johann)

Jo, I think I am going to forward that to Bobistheoilguy.com <p>That might make their week. Endorsing a 50 weight oil when the manufacturer says 5/30 or 10/30 means you may know more than the engineering folks at Volvo.<p>Do what you want, but don't endorse a non standard oil weight and say you will lose your engine. Nonesense.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the summer it is the perfect oil for your engine setup.<p>For winter you might go with the 30 grade although it appears the 5W-50 has good cold start capabilities also.<p>The 5w-50 will give the better constant viscosity over a wider temperature range, 30 grade will be way to "thin" in hot summers. If you do track stuff, drag race etc. you will wreck your engine and specially your turbo using 30 graden in 100ºF weather.. <p></TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (fredmc)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>fredmc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That might make their week. Endorsing a 50 weight oil when the manufacturer says 5/30 or 10/30 means you may know more than the engineering folks at Volvo..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>First of all, for the US Volvo recommends 30 grade. for those who drive 2 digits all day and who start whining when the mileage becomes realistic for the engine they drive...<p>For Europe a 40 grade has been recommended for as long as I can remember except for the last few years when, for example in my country, the driving habits changed and people started wondering where their precious liquid gold went. Also maintenance is down to 18.5K miles nowadays using 0W-30 grade oil.<p>Go to a nice track day, auto X day and hear that engine's tick-a-tick-a-tick because of the pissthin oil. And most of them use 40 grade.<p>Now do this on a 100ºF day and say bye bye to your turbo.<p>The thread started is driving a modified S60 and uses it for spirited driving.<p>I would never, ever, recommend a light/lean/low maintenance/high mileage 30 grade oil on a car like that.<p>Lately a few 0W-30 grade oils appear to hold their viscosity over a wide temperature spread but so far not much has been proven. <p>The 5W-50 runs very well on the Volvo turbo engine, plenty of people have been using it for longer time. <p>I would prefer a 5W-40 but at 100ºF ambient is has been proven that with some brands viscosity becomes scaringly thin after hard use. If 5W-40 isn't available and 5W-50 is the choice is simple.
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Johann)

From bobisthe oilguy.com, who I trust about oils a lot more than J.<p><br>Hogwash. These are not VAG blocks.<p>The ONLY time you're going to EVER consider a 50 weight in a post '99 turbo white block is if you're competition tracking a heavily modified one. And it sure wouldn't be a multivis, either. <p>You should NEVER need that heavy a viscosity in any street variant of this engine, anywhere.<p>On the post '99 white block turbos, a full synthetic 30 is fine on the street except under the most severe of conditions, where a 40 might be advisable. I drive a HO turbo 2.5, an S60R to be precise. They don't get much more stressed than that in a street block. Only modded Rs, where the HP goes much past 350, are 40 weight candidates.<p>On pre-99s, I will lean towards a 40, but for different reasons. There was a piston ring change around 99, so the earlier ones might experience a little less consumption on 40. But they won't be harmed at all using a 30.<p>The more important need with a turbo white block is for a synthetic base stock that has superior thermal stability. And a 5w-50 multivis would not be first on THAT list, especially if racing it. Try a straight 40.<p>A 50 on any white block turbo would just KILL spool up and response.<p>And the ticking is from the injector valving. Volvo's fuel injection systems are notoriously LOUD. <p>This guy is talking from the days of red blocks and non-water cooled blowers. <p>And unless he's tracking a heavily modified R engine, J doesn't know what he is talking about--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (fredmc)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>fredmc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From bobisthe oilguy.com, who I trust about oils a lot more than J.<p><br>Hogwash. These are not VAG blocks.<p>The ONLY time you're going to EVER consider a 50 weight in a post '99 turbo white block is if you're competition tracking a heavily modified one. And it sure wouldn't be a multivis, either. <p>You should NEVER need that heavy a viscosity in any street variant of this engine, anywhere.<p>On the post '99 white block turbos, a full synthetic 30 is fine on the street except under the most severe of conditions, where a 40 might be advisable. I drive a HO turbo 2.5, an S60R to be precise. They don't get much more stressed than that in a street block. Only modded Rs, where the HP goes much past 350, are 40 weight candidates.<p>On pre-99s, I will lean towards a 40, but for different reasons. There was a piston ring change around 99, so the earlier ones might experience a little less consumption on 40. But they won't be harmed at all using a 30.<p>The more important need with a turbo white block is for a synthetic base stock that has superior thermal stability. And a 5w-50 multivis would not be first on THAT list, especially if racing it. Try a straight 40.<p>A 50 on any white block turbo would just KILL spool up and response.<p>And the ticking is from the injector valving. Volvo's fuel injection systems are notoriously LOUD. <p>This guy is talking from the days of red blocks and non-water cooled blowers. <p>And unless he's tracking a heavily modified R engine, J doesn't know what he is talking about--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Get your facts straight Mr. wiseguy.<p>The recommended oil for an '04 R is 5W-40 Synthetic. Castrol TXT Softec 5w-40 to be more precise. For the US, where the throttle pedal often can't be found, the 30 grade is adviced. Volvo advices Castrol SLX R-tec 0W-30 for that matter.<p>Like I said I'd prefer a 40 grade for spirited use but for the thread starter who happens to own a T5 which is modded to some extend and who apparently likes to floor the throttle from time to time the 50 grade will do fine in the very hot climate.<br>It is a known fact that some 30 grade oils lose their viscosity on Volvo I5 turbo engine's under heavy usage. The oil pressure will be doubtfull also when this happens.<br>Go pull open an engine which has been running the 10W-30 or 5W-30 grade "lean" oils and discover that they are clogged with black sludge. A good 40 grade or a 5W-50 grade won't show that behavior.<br>The loud ticking engine noise coming from the hydro valve lifters as used in I5 engine's up to March 2000 and again in the new R engine's. I have attended plenty of all I5 track events to confirm these findings and it has nothing to do with the injector noise.<p>So, answering the question what to do if 30 and 50 grade are available and considering the drivers driving habits and the climate he lives in I say go with the 50 grade in the hot weather and he will be fine. For winter the 30 grade would be an option but the 5W-50 has proven to do well in colder climate and also on modern tight tolerance engine's.<p><A HREF="http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=015572;p=0" TARGET="_blank">But it looks like you can only base your comments on other people's opinions.</A><br>And yes I am tracking a heavily modded I5 (And R) engine.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (fredmc)

hey guys. last week i took my car to the dealer for regular service and changed the oil and stuff. they said they always advised Mobil1 full synthetic 0-40 grade for S60 T5s. and i said okay. was i wrong?<p>i live in istanbul which is between 20F - 60F in winter, and between 70F - 100F in spring and summer.<p>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Serdar-S60T5)

don't know how it works there. if an equal availability of 0/30, 5/30, 10/30 and 0/40 is out there then as the thread reads it's real simple.<p>5/30 or 0/30 for the winter, 10/30 or 0/40 for the hot summer months. 5/50 is not recommended
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Johann)

anyone giving their own advice using a 5/50 is giving bad advice and is based on zero facts. The forum specializes in oil experts and you sir are pretty far from one. <p>Use 0/30 and 5/30 for the winter<br>Use the same as above or a 0/40 for the hot summer months.<p>Never use a 50 weight on that engine. Especially in the winter. <br>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get your facts straight Mr. wiseguy.<p>The recommended oil for an '04 R is 5W-40 Synthetic. Castrol TXT Softec 5w-40 to be more precise.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Let's just put this to rest already. Either post a pic of the European owner's manual, start your own warranty business, or let it go.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the US, where the throttle pedal often can't be found, the 30 grade is adviced. Volvo advices Castrol SLX R-tec 0W-30 for that matter.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Based on my owner's manual, 10/30 is recommended for my climate; M1 of course. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Based on my owner's manual, 10/30 is recommended for my climate; M1 of course. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>M1 is great stuff, and you won't ever get into a sludge situation with that oil. I have a suggestion if you wanted to try a run with another oil. I use Castrol syntec 0/30 (look for bottles at Autozone that say "made in Germany" on the back), it's called "german castrol". It's a thicker 0/30 almost 40 weight. Smoother in my limited opinion than Mobil 1. And I get great gas milage out of it as well. <br>Kind of has a cult following. It's a PAO oil like Mobil 1. According to UOA 's <br>it can last over 6000 miles easily. I change at 4000 however just because I can...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Let's just put this to rest already. Either post a pic of the European owner's manual, start your own warranty business, or let it go.<p>Based on my owner's manual, 10/30 is recommended for my climate; M1 of course. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well.. not the manual but a huge billboard... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://swededemon.com//images/ext/volvooil/Afb054.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Johann)

Looks like Volvo revised their oil advice..<p><A HREF="http://www.castrolproductlaunch.net/Package/files/pdf/oiltable.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.castrolproductlaunc...e.pdf</A>
 

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Re: 5W50? oil for OEM (Johann)

Volvo does not specify a manufacturer of the oil. If they suggest or recommend it's because they are paid to do so. <p>That was a Castrol blurb not Volvo. Seriously, I think if you were racing and it's real hot out, then the 5/50 would be a short term thing. But for an every day driver, regardless of the model. 0/30 or 10/30 or 0/40 would be standard and good for the engine. They aren't designed to use 50 weight oil.<p>Having said that in the states the best oil in the Castrol line is German Castrol 0/30 (almost a 40 weight), available only at Autozone.<p>
 
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