[tonyc]

^ pinche Volvo with the stupid oil specs again. Thanks. Liquid moly it is I guess.

 

[Capndirk]

^ pinche Volvo with the stupid oil specs again. Thanks. Liquid moly it is I guess.

What is specced for your engine? That Castrol is A1-B1, which is what my 09 XC90 3.2 is supposed to have. That spec has been obsoleted to A3-B3. I think the viscosity may be a little better if it crept up to 30w. I bought Mobil 1 A3-B3 0-30w from Costco. Be careful with A5-B5, though, it may not be good for earlier engines.
https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...astrol-edge-brand/castrol-edge.html#tab_0w-20

 

[rdr854]

What is specced for your engine? That Castrol is A1-B1, which is what my 09 XC90 3.2 is supposed to have. That spec has been obsoleted to A3-B3. I think the viscosity may be a little better if it crept up to 30w. I bought Mobil 1 A3-B3 0-30w from Costco. Be careful with A5-B5, though, it may not be good for earlier engines.
https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...astrol-edge-brand/castrol-edge.html#tab_0w-20

Castrol is still saying 5w-30 when you give your car information. Volvo really should notify each car owner and provide an insert for the owners manual and a sticker for under the hood. I am sure that there are plenty of folks who will take their cars to independent shops and therefore will not know about the change in oil requirements.

 

[tonyc]

What is specced for your engine? That Castrol is A1-B1, which is what my 09 XC90 3.2 is supposed to have. That spec has been obsoleted to A3-B3. I think the viscosity may be a little better if it crept up to 30w. I bought Mobil 1 A3-B3 0-30w from Costco. Be careful with A5-B5, though, it may not be good for earlier engines.
https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...astrol-edge-brand/castrol-edge.html#tab_0w-20

This is a SPA forum, so whatever you're using in your 3.2 is DEF not what is spec'd. The spec is below, and it's not even officially available in US from Castrol.

For Castrol you need to find Castrol Edge Professional V 0w20 and make sure it has VCC-RBS0-2AE on the label.

 

[Nerd23]

Check the below Technical Journal

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10171688-9999.pdf

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[Capndirk]

This is a SPA forum, so whatever you're using in your 3.2 is DEF not what is spec'd. The spec is below, and it's not even officially available in US from Castrol.

Sorry, saw it to0 late and tried to delete the post right after. Didn't take. That Edge is an older spec, though.

 

[tonyc]

Check the below Technical Journal

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10171688-9999.pdf

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I've read that a few times and went w/ the FCP euro liquidmoly oil change kit just like everyone else.

My question remains: wtf are the dealerships using if there's no Castro pro v? The unobtanium Volvo branded oil? Is that why they charge $200 for an oil change?!?

 

[brich999]

I've read that a few times and went w/ the FCP euro liquidmoly oil change kit just like everyone else.

My question remains: wtf are the dealerships using if there's no Castro pro v? The unobtanium Volvo branded oil? Is that why they charge $200 for an oil change?!?

we dont have trouble with quarts, we get 55gal drums of 0w20 castrol pro v. supply line is a little different when you go through hundreds of gallons a month compared to a couple gallons per year.

 

[tonyc]

we dont have trouble with quarts, we get 55gal drums of 0w20 castrol pro v. supply line is a little different when you go through hundreds of gallons a month compared to a couple gallons per year.

Duh. Of course. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Row57]

I've read that a few times and went w/ the FCP euro liquidmoly oil change kit just like everyone else.

My question remains: wtf are the dealerships using if there's no Castro pro v? The unobtanium Volvo branded oil? Is that why they charge $200 for an oil change?!?

The FCP Euro kit is great and I've been using it for the last 20k miles since going out of warranty.

But who said there is a shortage of the Castrol Professional oil? The oil is sold only to dealerships and repair shops, so you won't find it at an auto parts store.

 

[mrclemson]

Castrol Edge Professional V 0w20 is impossible to find. Not a big fan of the Liquidmoly that ranked pretty much to the bottom on the engine oil test done by Project Farm on Youtube. I wonder whether anyone had successfully used Amsoil SAE 0W-20 LS Synthetic European Motor Oil, I saw it meets the Volvo VCC RBS0-2AE spec. Not cheap, but about the best oil money can buy https://www.amsoil.com/p/sae-0w-20-ls-synthetic-european-motor-oil-afe/#pills-home_0

 

[stick_shift]

Castrol Edge Professional V 0w20 is impossible to find. Not a big fan of the Liquidmoly that ranked pretty much to the bottom on the engine oil test done by Project Farm on Youtube. I wonder whether anyone had successfully used Amsoil SAE 0W-20 LS Synthetic European Motor Oil, I saw it meets the Volvo VCC RBS0-2AE spec. Not cheap, but about the best oil money can buy https://www.amsoil.com/p/sae-0w-20-ls-synthetic-european-motor-oil-afe/#pills-home_0

Thanks so much! If you join their mailing list it's only $8/qt. Not that bad.

 

[Ultrarunner511]

Thanks so much! If you join their mailing list it's only $8/qt. Not that bad.

Whether you pay for 6 months or a year, 12 quarts is cheaper than buying it without the subscription. I'll use it for my first oil change after 3k miles or so on the 21 and I'm going to send in a sample of the factory oil to Blackstone Labs. I'll happily use my factory included oil change at 10k. Not sure how willing the dealer will be to collect another sample of oil for analysis.

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[Ultrarunner511]

After USPS hung onto my oil sample for 3 weeks, it finally reached Blackstone Labs. Just read thru the analysis if anyone is interested. I don't have anything to compare it to yet, but I'm surprised at some of the metals compared to the average. I'll send in the 2017's oil after this weekend.

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[EdS]

Check the below Technical Journal

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10171688-9999.pdf

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I am not sure how they can legally do this however...

If you can "only use" Castrol Pro, and it is not available outside of a volvo dealership... then they have to do the service for free. If Liquid Moly and other oils that meet their spec are not allowed under the warranty, then they must provide the oil changes for free. Or get sued.

 

[Ultrarunner511]

I am not sure how they can legally do this however...

If you can "only use" Castrol Pro, and it is not available outside of a volvo dealership... then they have to do the service for free. If Liquid Moly and other oils that meet their spec are not allowed under the warranty, then they must provide the oil changes for free. Or get sued.

Read the whole thread and the TJ and the Volvo manual. Castrol 0w20 Professional V is required during service at the dealer that requires engine oil replacement (included maintenance for example). If your engine is replaced or rebuilt, Castrol 0w20 Professional V is required too. That's at the dealer. Because they changed from 5w30 with the past year and a half.

Volvo spec Ow20 (VCC RBS0-2AE) is required for the engines outside of the dealer replacing the oil. LiquiMoly, Motul, Amsoil, Ravenol are a few that carry the spec.

It's similar to any car that requires premium but recommends BP or Shell or whatever. Premium is required no matter where you get it from. The recommendation is just that: a recommendation.

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[EdS]

Read the whole thread and the TJ and the Volvo manual. Castrol 0w20 Professional V is recommended. Volvo spec Ow20 (VCC RBS0-2AE) is required. LiquiMoly, Motul, Amsoil, Ravenol are a few that carry the spec.

It's similar to any car that requires premium but recommends BP or Shell or whatever. Premium is required no matter where you get it from. The recommendation is just that: a recommendation.

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I read the TJ and it said "Volvo will not pay any oil maintenance claims that are performed without using Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil."

Are they meaning they will not pay for service that does not use the Castrol? Or are they saying they will not pay claims arising from not using Castrol?

Otherwise, I will happily order the amsoil

 

[Ultrarunner511]

I read the TJ and it said "Volvo will not pay any oil maintenance claims that are performed without using Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil."

Are they meaning they will not pay for service that does not use the Castrol? Or are they saying they will not pay claims arising from not using Castrol?

Otherwise, I will happily order the amsoil

Oil maintenance = oil change intervals under warranty. The wording is strange, but the TJ's have been updated. The Volvo manual is very clear (first photo)

Amsoil carries the Volvo spec. However, I wasn't that impressed with Amsoil's 0w20 Euro oil based this analysis (second photo). TBN, flashpoint, viscosity... all appear oddly low for oil with that little mileage on it. I found Volvo spec Castrol available online and at a local dealer, so I'll be using that for as long as possible.

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[EdS]

Oil maintenance = oil change intervals under warranty. The wording is strange, but the TJ's have been updated. The Volvo manual is very clear (first photo)

Amsoil carries the Volvo spec. However, I wasn't that impressed with Amsoil's 0w20 Euro oil based this analysis (second photo). TBN, flashpoint, viscosity... all appear oddly low for oil with that little mileage on it. I found Volvo spec Castrol available online and at a local dealer, so I'll be using that for as long as possible.

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Where are you finding the castrol Volvo spec oil? Local dealer?

For me.. my area... its amsoil or Liquid moly

 

[Ultrarunner511]

Where are you finding the castrol Volvo spec oil? Local dealer?

For me.. my area... its amsoil or Liquid moly

I found some on Ebay the first time from a eastern US dealer. Found some at a dealer in the Phoenix area. And recently ordered some from ECS Tuning:

Castrol Edge TWS Engine Oil 0W20 - 1 Liter - (NO LONGER AVAILABLE)

Specific Castrol oil designed for your "M" engine

www.ecstuning.com

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