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I'd recommend reading all of this...

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stick_shift said:

Thanks so much! If you join their mailing list it's only $8/qt. Not that bad.

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Whether you pay for 6 months or a year, 12 quarts is cheaper than buying it without the subscription. I'll use it for my first oil change after 3k miles or so on the 21 and I'm going to send in a sample of the factory oil to Blackstone Labs. I'll happily use my factory included oil change at 10k. Not sure how willing the dealer will be to collect another sample of oil for analysis.

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EdS said:

I am not sure how they can legally do this however...

If you can "only use" Castrol Pro, and it is not available outside of a volvo dealership... then they have to do the service for free. If Liquid Moly and other oils that meet their spec are not allowed under the warranty, then they must provide the oil changes for free. Or get sued.

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Read the whole thread and the TJ and the Volvo manual. Castrol 0w20 Professional V is required during service at the dealer that requires engine oil replacement (included maintenance for example). If your engine is replaced or rebuilt, Castrol 0w20 Professional V is required too. That's at the dealer. Because they changed from 5w30 with the past year and a half.

Volvo spec Ow20 (VCC RBS0-2AE) is required for the engines outside of the dealer replacing the oil. LiquiMoly, Motul, Amsoil, Ravenol are a few that carry the spec.

It's similar to any car that requires premium but recommends BP or Shell or whatever. Premium is required no matter where you get it from. The recommendation is just that: a recommendation.

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EdS said:

Where are you finding the castrol Volvo spec oil? Local dealer?

For me.. my area... its amsoil or Liquid moly

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I found some on Ebay the first time from a eastern US dealer. Found some at a dealer in the Phoenix area. And recently ordered some from ECS Tuning:


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lamarguy said:

Volvo's spec has prioritized fuel economy over engine wear. They require a low HTHS (lower shear stability) oil, like most modern manufacturers.

5W-30 out 0W-20 In

For my 40K service today I see that the dealer used 0W-20 synthetic oil and not the 5W-30 used 11 months ago for the 30K service. Dealer told me that 0W-20 is the new specification issued by Volvo.

www.swedespeed.com

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I remember seeing this! Oddly enough, I didn't get any better gas mileage on my former early model 2020 (with Castrol 5w30 from the factory) than I do right now with my 2021 with Castrol 0w20. I would have had the 2021's oil for analysis, but the dealer changed it at about 10k miles without me planning on it.

Maybe behind the scenes Volvo, as well as numerous other manufacturers, are investing in the inevitable future of premature engine failure during the transition to battery power...to corner customers into one choice? Nice way to make a customer's money go to waste

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VolvoUhu said:

Is Amsoil an Amway style of home/pyramid scheme type of sales model?

We're on a big road trip and currently going through Midwest. I've never seen it before and now just at about every home we drive by in WI towns and on rural highways advertise "Amsoil sold here". Even a couple of NAPA stores I've seen the sign in the window.

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Yeah, I've seen people trying to plug Amsoil and I think it's similar to what you describe. Anyone can buy it online, but you can be a member and save money on all products. I'm just not that impressed after having the oil analyzed.

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paradoxicallymodified said:

Do people "really", no, "really" look at charts when buying oil? WOW! How about you use what is recommended or don't, and deal with the consequences. I mean, the oil threads on this forum are beyond redundant. One common "thread" if you will, is that everyone has their own opinion and their own unique situation. If you don't have a unique situation, be it performance or climate, (extremes in either instance) then use what is recommended. (Especially if it is what is recommended to keep you in warranty)

Otherwise, use magenta.……Someone will get it…..

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I'm using what's required by Volvo and using the oil analysis as feedback on how it performed. Trying to narrow down what Volvo approved oil seems to yield the best results

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