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How's this for milking the new car on the block? If someone needs to have this car so bad that they won't wait a little bit for the fever to die down, they should be flogged.<BR> <A HREF="http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=611095&page=1" TARGET=_blank>http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=611095&page=1</A>
 

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Yannis mentioned in an earlier thread that there is a charity auction for the first one on ebay. The concensus was back then that the price would be silly. Someone will pay for it though...<P>
 

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I don't doubt that someone will pay it. This is the kind of markup that Cali dealers were charging for M3s a year ago. Percentage wise, they are making out like bandits if they can find enough suckers.<P><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spearzy:<BR><B>Yannis mentioned in an earlier thread that there is a charity auction for the first one on ebay. The concensus was back then that the price would be silly. Someone will pay for it though...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carl Sims:<BR><B>I don't doubt that someone will pay it. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The dealer markup on M5's is $20,000.00 and I see plenty of those...<P>
 

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Yeah, but on the M3 and the M5, there is a little, very little, justification for this kind of stuff. I am not so sure that the new Z is that kind of vehicle. And the one in question here isn't even the Track model with all of the goodies like Brembos, Ray's wheels, suspension...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kaizai:<BR><B> The dealer markup on M5's is $20,000.00 and I see plenty of those...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
 

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is it even worth the price? some people are just crazy or have too much money...or both<p>[This message has been edited by silvereye (edited 08-27-2002).]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carl Sims:<BR><B>How's this for milking the new car on the block? If someone needs to have this car so bad that they won't wait a little bit for the fever to die down, they should be flogged.<BR> <A HREF="http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=611095&page=1" TARGET=_blank>http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=611095&page=1</A> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>so it's okay to bash dealer markup when it doesn't involve something with a blue propeller on the hood? dealer markup isn't a great thing, but it is part of capitalism. supply and demand is a powerful thing.<BR>
 

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You may have read me wrong. I think that markups are a bad thing no matter what the vehicle. <P>But like you said, capitalism is what it is and nobody has to pay it. On the other hand, a "market adjustment" of nearly one-third is extreme no matter what the vehicle. Hell, a GT2 isn't marked up that much.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by onikage:<BR><B> <BR>so it's okay to bash dealer markup when it doesn't involve something with a blue propeller on the hood? dealer markup isn't a great thing, but it is part of capitalism. supply and demand is a powerful thing.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carl Sims:<BR><B>You may have read me wrong. I think that markups are a bad thing no matter what the vehicle. <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>my response was more caused by the fact that the original thread came from a bimmer forum. they all say how ridiculous it is now, but when the E46 M3 first came out they all found a reason to justify the $15k-$25k markup on them.<P>frankly, the only thing i find amazing about the E46 M3 is how the 0-60 time seems to get lower and lower every time i see it quoted. and that is not worth another $15k on top of msrp to me. not in any car, much less one with engines that self-destruct and simultaneously void the warranty for you.
 

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Good point, I don't think the 350Z will be puking up engine parts like the M3. Not unless some boyracer attaches too much NOS!! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><P>I'm amazed that M3 problem occures, I've always held BMW in the highest respects. Especially the M3, that and the M5 have always been one of my favorite cars of all time.<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carl Sims:<BR><B>You may have read me wrong. I think that markups are a bad thing no matter what the vehicle. <P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>But you will take a discount, right?<P><P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carl Sims:<BR><B>You may have read me wrong. I think that markups are a bad thing no matter what the vehicle. <P>But like you said, capitalism is what it is and nobody has to pay it. On the other hand, a "market adjustment" of nearly one-third is extreme no matter what the vehicle. Hell, a GT2 isn't marked up that much.<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No matter what "it is" and what we think of it, this is capitalism. Supply and demand drive prices. You cannot enjoy capitalism when it serves you and blast it when it is not.<P>Why blame the dealer who charges $10,000 OEVR MSRP because HE KNOWS that some moron will pay it? Blame the idiots who HAVE TO HAVE the first few cars and act like they found water in the desert...<P>I, personally, think that OVERcharging is equal to gouging, but that is human greed supplied and supported by the equal greed of certain consumers who MUST have it NOW.<P>Yannis<P>
 

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Ok.<P>I see that no one is reading EVERYTHING that I am typing. Once again, Capitalism is good and if a dealer wants to markup a car 100%, they are free to do so. No one has to pay this price. I am saying this for the third time, will someone listen?<P>As for accepting a discount, sure I will. When I was buying my T5 last year, I was prepared to pay up to 4% over the invoice for it. When my salesman offered it for invoice plus the $2500 rebate right off the bat, you think I told him this information? Hell no.<P>
 
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