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Dudes,<p>the wheels are out for this year, due to a lower bonus than expected (I'm still glad I got one) and a crappy tax return. But I still need new tires. I'm going with either Michellin Pilot Sport A/S Plus or Bridgestone RE960 Pole Positions. Both got very good reviews on Tirerack and are ultra high performance all seasons. I'm not willing to give up performance driving in the chillier but snow-free months of the year.<p>Stock, i have 235/45x17s on the Pegs. But I'm not sure if the stock 17" Peg is 7.5" or 8" wide. I want to run 245/45x17s (I know the speedo will be a bit off, but I want an aggressive tire and a bit more sidewall due to the roads up here), and was hoping they wouldn't bubble out if the rim is too small.<p>Thoughts? (please no recommendations on different tires, I've done my research and these are the 2 I've decided to look at).
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (T5 for Life)

The only thing to worry about it more rubbing when you turn. Spacers would fix that, but it'll cost $$ for the wider spacers with extended bolts. Our wheels are wife enough for sure to fir 245s, but not many people bother to do it.<p>If you do not need more grip though, such as going to the track, auto-x, etc, then it probably won't be worth it to have extra rubber.
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (T5 for Life)

I just picked up a set of Genuine 17" Pegs from Boston Volvo for my Vanilla S60 AWD and they said they were 17x8s. J<p>Just went an measured them and they are definitely 17x8, if you are supposed to measure from the in side width of the rims <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">. Never had to measure a rim by hand before lol. <p>I will probably just go with the stock 235/45/R17s on these myself.
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (stealthS60AWD)

17 Pegs are 8 inches wide. I have 245s on my winter wheels which are also 17x8. They are nice cuz they help protect the wheels and also give an aggressive stance. The downside is the rubbing. They rub pretty badly even with 5mm spacers.<br>
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (T5 for Life)

Stick with the 235's........unless you really like rubbing.
 

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I love the Re950's<p>They don't have that rounded sidewall like the Ps2's.<p>They're both great tires, but for the price the Re's rock!
 

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I've always loved the Bridgestone RE950s, and before that the RE750s. They were great tires. Bit noisy, but worth it. They only make the 960s now (all season) and the 760s (summer). 960s are aroun 180 for 235/45/17. This would be my first set of Michellins (aside from OEM crap on my wife's Accord), but Tirerack loved them, and compared them to the 960s in the review. They're about the same price.<p>And thanks for the input, I didn't realize the slight increase from 245 to 235 would rub that much more. I just wanted the meaner stance, but I'm not willing to put spacers on. I guess I'll go with the 235/45
 

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I have had 245s on my R since it was 5,000 miles old (now at 76K), only a slight rub at full lock with the Eagle F1 GSD3 and the F1 All Season in a 245/45 17 AND 10mm spacers. Run wasnt that bad without spacers, and 5mm would actually be ideal since i had to do a tiny bit of fender rolling after using the All Seasons since they are a hair wider than the GSD3, sectional width is VERY important, so checkout those tyre specs before diving in.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adykes</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had 245s on my R since it was 5,000 miles old (now at 76K), only a slight rub at full lock with the Eagle F1 GSD3 and the F1 All Season in a 245/45 17 AND 10mm spacers. Run wasnt that bad without spacers, and 5mm would actually be ideal since i had to do a tiny bit of fender rolling after using the All Seasons since they are a hair wider than the GSD3, sectional width is VERY important, so checkout those tyre specs before diving in.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>curious, any steering rack issues? <br>premature suspension wear?
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (T5 for Life)

<IMG SRC="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a268/danielswem/front2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>no bubbles on these 245 18's ps2's run 10 mm spacers at the front <br>still slight rub on lock
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (p0cket penguins)

I don't want to run spacers with stock wheels, since I'd like to avoid possible acceleration of bearing failure.<p>But the 245s look nice on those Pegs. Would you need a longer lug bolt for a 5 mm spacer?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FEO</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>curious, any steering rack issues? <br>premature suspension wear?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No steering issues, BUT, I have had a few struts go south on me, but the dealer doesn't think it's related and they have all been replaced under warranty or VIP warranty.
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (T5 for Life)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't want to run spacers with stock wheels, since I'd like to avoid possible acceleration of bearing failure.<p>But the 245s look nice on those Pegs. Would you need a longer lug bolt for a 5 mm spacer?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nope, 5mm lets you keep your lugs.
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (xman03)

Thanks. I've checked all different tire diameters. <p>I've compared all the various sizes and aspect rations, and don't mind the slight speedo change. <p>Total outside diameter is:<br>(stock) 235/45x17 = 34.57"<br>target 245/45x17 = 35.33" (sidewall height increases by .38" all around)<p>235/40x17 would be closer at 34.37. But I lose a little sidewall height with that, and it's a difficult tire size to find. I don't want the tires to look any smaller.<p>adykes...is there significantly increased stress on the wheel bearings with a 5mm spacer?
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (T5 for Life)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5 for Life</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks. I've checked all different tire diameters. <p>I've compared all the various sizes and aspect rations, and don't mind the slight speedo change. <p>Total outside diameter is:<br>(stock) 235/45x17 = 34.57"<br>target 245/45x17 = 35.33" (sidewall height increases by .38" all around)<p>235/40x17 would be closer at 34.37. But I lose a little sidewall height with that, and it's a difficult tire size to find. I don't want the tires to look any smaller.<p>adykes...is there significantly increased stress on the wheel bearings with a 5mm spacer?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Honestly even with the 10mm spacers the bearings have been ok, I abuse my R daily and have 76K on it now, they are bound to go at some point, but then again, all Volvo's wheel bearings fail, sooo...<p>As to the size, I'd much rather have a tyre slightly larger than slightly smaller, especially while still in warranty if you know what i mean.
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs (T5 for Life)

I had SIGNIFICANT rubbing, both inside and outside when I ran 18x245/40s KDW2s, even with 5, 10 or 15mm spacers (ended up 5mm up front, 10mm rear). with 5mm up front, had severe rubbing, and wtih 10mm spacers, when hitting a depressions/dips at speed, the tires would impact the outer wheel well and I would find chunks of tires melted onto the wheel well with corresponding damage on the tire. Granted, this was on autobahn and Nurburgring, not sure you will hit dips at speed in the states.<p>having said that, not all 245/40x18 or 245/45x17 are going to be the same, and they did a great job protecting my brand new 18" Titanium Pegs, not a scratch on them when I sold them and bought the TRexs, Ultraleggerras, Crono HTs or VST Monoblocks. Come to think of it, I've had those Monoblocks on for a long time...<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 245's on stock Pegs ("R" Kelly)

KDW2's are THICK, thicker, beefier sidewall than most tires of same size. I'm running them right now in 235/40 and I still scrape a bit in the front with 5mm spacers.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xman03</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">KDW2's are THICK, thicker, beefier sidewall than most tires of same size. I'm running them right now in 235/40 and I still scrape a bit in the front with 5mm spacers. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>well there you go.<p>Loved the KDW2s, incredibly grippy - pulled 1.01g on the Nurburgring with those on, and they channeled water better than anything I've seen. You did not want to be behind me on the autobahn when it was raining, the rooster tail was impressive and the road dry after they ran over it.
 
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