[cowfootball]

It happens all the time on my '21. It's ridiculously sensitive. I don't know about AAOS but on Sensus you could turn it off by tapping the CTA button in the 360 camera display. It resets on every engine start which is super annoying.

I used to live on a busy road and I would reverse out of my driveway until the rear of the car was lined up with the sides of the cars parked on the street so that when there was a gap I was ready to back into it. The Cross Traffic Alert would constantly tell me that I was reversing into traffic -- which I was, deliberately -- and throw on the rear intervention, causing me to miss gaps and scare the **** out of my passengers. I almost sold the damn car. But then we moved somewhere rural and now it never bothers me.

I don't know why these threads are inevitably filled with "doesn't happen to me lol" which are inherently unhelpful. If it doesn't happen to you it's because you live in suburbia and you've only ever reversed onto an empty street or in an empty carpark.

 

[cowfootball]

So no.....I don't live in suburbia or on an empty street or only negotiate empty car parks.

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The issue is you are inherently, honest to god "backing into traffic" and then the system prevents it. That's how it's designed. It has limitations.

Hint: these two points are related.

Yes, it is obviously intentional. I never said it wasn't. I am simply saying that if you live in a city then you are much more likely to encounter the "backing into traffic legitimately" scenario regularly and you wouldn't be surprised that this happens often let alone be posting "not once ever has CTA triggered when I didn't want it to".

The real shortcoming here, IMO, is that you cannot turn it off and leave it off. I'm functionally doing that anyway it's just that every single time I turn on the car to leave the driveway I have to do it manually and then it stays off the rest of the time. In my case, in my driving style and scenario, leaving it off would improve safety for me. It's a shortcoming that I have to deal with having my brakes slammed on and then forced into and out of park while a foot of my car is in the lane of traffic just because I happen to forgot to tap the button.

But it is TOTALLY unreasonable to think that some how the car could distinguish between when its OK to back into oncoming traffic (because you want to) and when it's supposed to save you from a collision because you are not paying attention. If it wasn't "sensitive" it wouldn't be able to keep you from an accident.

People seem so unrealistic about the capabilities of technology with unrealistic expectations. The tech does 100 things right and 2 things wrong, so the mentality is it's "terrible" or "stupid" or "worthless". You know, there is a different way to think about that kind of technology.

I never said this and I never had this expectation so you can argue with yourself all you like. I'm a director of software engineering at a self driving car company. I promise you I understand technology and it's limitations. The irony here is that because I acknowledge technology has limitations I think it's dumb when people jump in to every thread to tell me their experience with the technology has been perfect. That's great but it won't always be and telling someone else that your experience was perfect isn't helpful.

As an aside, it isn't unrealistic to think that CTA could be better for this scenario. Car software engineering is ****ing awful in basically every way and leagues away from what we would consider to be modern software engineering. It's totally reasonable that I expect there to be an option that says "don't turn on CTA until I am out of the location you to know to be my home" or "don't turn on CTA if it is obvious that I am reversing into traffic". All of these things are perfectly capable.

I'm not advocating that they do it but telling me it's impossible shows who the luddite in this conversation really is.

 

[cowfootball]

You know it’s beneficial to tell us the level of expertise you have because it gives yourself a lot of credibility.

Of course. Because you explicitly quoted my post and said that people are unrealistic about technologies capabilities. I'm specifically telling you that I am not. I am very acutely aware of automotive technologies capabilities.

There is absolutely no reason that CTA and other safety features cannot adapt to drive style and use location to make informed decisions to improve both safety and convenience. You said that it is "totally unreasonable" for the car to understand when you want to do this deliberately and I fervently disagree. I don't think automotive companies have the skills to do it -- nobody I know would work for an automotive company in 2023 because you earn 1/4 the amount to work on technology a decade old -- but it's totally possible and not all that hard.

I think he’s miss read the tone of my statement.

The tone of your statement is the tone of almost every statement you've ever made in this forum: condescension. All due respect, I don't need someone who has worked in service, sales or even corporate condescending me about technology.