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2024 Volvo EX30 Debut Confirmed For June 15 Debut

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Looks like Thursday Jun 15, 2023 the EX30 will debut.

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That's a good thing as it generates volume, which can keep the prices lower. Volkswagen group does the same with similar models from VW, Seat, Skoda and sometimes Audi, too.
Zeekr sister model is out and testing:


This car got a booty it do
That's a good thing as it generates volume, which can keep the prices lower. Volkswagen group does the same with similar models from VW, Seat, Skoda and sometimes Audi, too.
It depends on how well it’s done. From an American perspective, General Motors did it well… until they didn’t. Over about 20 years it destroyed the brand equity of Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and to a lesser degree Cadillac.

No doubt engineering a platform is far more expensive today. Here’s to hoping Volvo is able to continue having a distinct identity For its cars.
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Yes so on the one hand you make more models using the same platform and behind the scenes / unseen by customer hardware. So economies of scale. But that only really works if you have those products in different segments otherwise (as VW and Stellantis (= Vauxhall/Opel/GM Europe/ Peugeot/Citroen/Fiat/Chrysler) have found) you end up competing for the same market segment and price with e.g. 3 vehicles of your own rather than 1 i.e. segment is 1,000,000 units a year and you've now got 3 cars in there vs competitors instead of just competing with one model. Harder to get the volume per model of your own to make investment back.

Smart and Volvo are in very different segments so that separates the Smart #1 from the EX30. I'm not sure what Zeekrs positioning is and how it differs from Geely or Lynk and Co or Geometry. One problem is the first Zeekr model (the 001) looks like a Lynk and Co as well! Geometry is Geely's EV only brand but not sure where it goes long term as Geely, Lynk and Co pivot to EV so what does Geometry become? Or does it disappear?

Speculate that Lynk and Co is a bit above Geely in terms of price and brand, Geometry is EV only for now, Zeekr is ?

Feels like it's starting to be too many brands....
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Thanks medels

The overlap seems to be more for Geely, Geometry, Lynk and Co i.e. mainstream brands in the same space. So far Geely has remained in China, Asia and Middle East, same for Geometry (but less so outside of China) and Lynk and Co has led the company's move into Europe. Proton has so far re-branded Geely models for the Malaysian market but not further afield - and why would Proton be in other markets as there they are Geelys branded as Geelys.

Don't really see what Zeekr is and with them offering a large hatchback/fastback EV and next and MPV, sedan confirmed and an SUV I'm a little lost what they are as a brand vs Geely, Geometry and Lynk and Co.

Not sure what really distinguishes them one from the other....
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Zeekr is high end, Geometry is low end EV. LynkCo will have mid-level EV too.
Volvo is luxury and P* is luxury sporty level.
Zeekr X (EX30, Smart #1 size) is just announced.
Geometry EV is based on old chassis, and don't know how long it will be kept.
All EVs will move to SEA platform as I can imagine.
Cool! I like! I wonder how much Volvo helped developping this.
Looks really good I must say!

Front calipers look massive! Even the 430hp Smart #1 brabus is not equiped with such a kit.
Same camera under the side mirror as the EX90 ?
That's a Zeekr, not a Volvo or Polestar. It's nice and may look better than the Volvo, from the exterior anyway. Looks better to my eyes than any of the Volvo EX30 renders.

I don't really get Lynk and Co. or Zeekr. Zeekr is called premium and seems to have great performance. If it comes to Europe, why buy a Volvo or Polestar over a Zeek? What makes the Volvo or Polestar worth more money to buy and what makes them more premium?

I think Zeekr has stolen Volvo's thunder with this reveal. I don't know. There's something Polestarish about this Zeekr. Maybe the back but something about it is Polestar-like, unlike the overstyled minivan or the 001 sports crossover.
Cool! I like! I wonder how much Volvo helped developping this.
Volvo doesn't work on Zeekr cars, do they?
So now Zeekr has the Polestar 2's mirrors that move as a unit? It sure looks like they came off the Polestar 2.
Zeekr is high end, Geometry is low end EV. LynkCo will have mid-level EV too.
Volvo is luxury and P* is luxury sporty level.
Zeekr X (EX30, Smart #1 size) is just announced.
Geometry EV is based on old chassis, and don't know how long it will be kept.
All EVs will move to SEA platform as I can imagine.
The EX30 is luxury? I don't know.

The EX90 is on the SPA2 platform. Not sure about the future Volvos. Not sure what the Polestar 5 and 6 will be built on.

I don't like all these brands and Volvo basically looking like versions of the same cars of "lower" line brands. Volvos were unique even though owned by Geely. With an MPV that is based on a Zeekr and more Lynk and Co and Zeekr's looking like less expensive versions of Volvos, Volvo can lose that unique Euro brand position and just looks like it makes Volvo versions of a standard Geely family car. I'm all for Volvo using the shared platform if it is a good one but how is Volvo distinguished in terms of luxury, safety, etc. when there are very similar cars from another two brands in the Geely group? And how are they now European in feel when they have the same mechanicals as Geely and Lynk and Co? I realize L&C and Z are half Swedish but they look like Chinese designs and more suitable for the Chinese market.
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The Zeekr 3 has a sleek, lower front. The problem with this render is the blocky front. It's an EV and lacks the cool, low front of the Concept Recharge. Volvo should take the Concept Recharge's front and put it on their new BEVs, including the illuminated logo. This render just looks like a slightly shortened, updated XC40. And it's the best one, IMO, so far.

Volvo isn't knocking it out of the park with their new designs like they have in the last generation if the production car resembles this car. I'm not sure Volvo will appeal to young people if they go blocky like this.

A few renders from Autoweek Netherlands. Looks like a mash-up between the EX90 and XC40. Way better looking than the Motor1 which looked like a scaled down version of the EX90.

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Volvo doesn't work on Zeekr cars, do they?
Not Volvo per see but the different Geely owned companies at Lindholmen on Hisingen near the Volvo factory and Polestar HQ. There's probably not closed doors between these different companies.
Volvo doesn't work on Zeekr cars, do they?
CEVT does, The volvo/geely spin off based in Göteborg which developped the XC40, polestar 2 + a bunch of lynk&co.

I wonder if the MPV will go to Europe markets? Even if not, perhaps there will be a small fleet in Gothenburg to transport visitors and gauge reaction?
CEVT does, The volvo/geely spin off based in Göteborg which developped the XC40, polestar 2 + a bunch of lynk&co.

The Polestar 2 and XC40 are on the CMA and yes, a lot of cars share it. But Volvo and Polestar should still have some signatures that distinguish them. The danger of all these brands is Volvo and Polestar can end up diluted. In a way, I like that Polestar has a development center in England that is refining its road manners. If Volvos drive like Lynk and Co's, why pay more for Volvo? If Zeekr's road manners are as good or better than Polestar, why pay more for Polestar? This is something Volvo should be careful about IMO.
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