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We put a deposit down with our local dealer (Portland, Oregon) to build a 2023 V60 Polestar Engineered T8 about 2 months ago. The dealer has been great but the "build" hasnt been accepted by Volvo and it doesn't sound like there is much information on IF it will be accepted. I've also heard some folks that have confirmed 22 builds got pushed to 23 MY and are still awaiting details.

We want to buy this new and get the federal $7500k rebate and we want the longer range that the 22 Extended and 23's have. I'm hoping someone has some news on the 23 polestars but my dealer is starting to think we might not get this car made.
 

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It looks like there are a lot of 2022 orders that got pushed over to 2023 and Volvo will have to fill those too. In Canada, there's a stop sale notice to dealers for all the T8 models as Volvo is unable to fill orders.

I also have a 2023 V60 Polestar on order and I honestly don't think it will get filled. Hopefully they will still produces these for 2024 I will get an early one.
 

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I don't know if @DFrantz has any more insight into this, for the V60 PE in particular.

We had a little bit of similar issue with V60 PEs at the beginning of FY22: from late FY21 Volvo would not accept (OSD?) orders until January (though this appeared to be related to the MY ER switch). Once we heard they weren't confirming orders, we put a deposit in in October, I think (and IIUC, VCUS sees that?) We figured we should get in line ASAP. The dealer confirmed quickly (in October) that they had the allocation (but I don't understand how specific allocation is: allocation for any car? For a V60 in particular?) But orders were not "accepted" (again, whatever that means) until January. My dealer called to confirm we wanted before confirming the order spec at that point and we confirmed ASAP. Up until that point, I (worst case) assumed we didn't have a car.

Doug has mentioned they have limited allocations for various models, particularly (I think?) all the non-XC models. But he seemed to say the PEs were a whole different level of limited availability.

Good luck to all. We feel like we really lucked out getting our MY22.5.
 

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No one will really know anything until the next round of allocation, which we might get info on the first week of August... and I suspect we may not see any V60 PE in that. They are rarer than I think folks realize if you're coming from outside Volvo. It is not simply a matter of "yeah I'd like one". They make a few dozen at most for the US.

One does have to separate the traditional mindset of an order. Car manufacturers do not have their production design around orders. Some are certainly better than others. Volvo is a small company in the terms of car manufacturing, so while they have their advantages, order flexibility isn't one. In normal times and with a normal car, Volvo's personal at corporate does a great job being flexible and moving units around to satisfy the needs of customers, so from the customer perspective this isn't normally nearly as big of a factor.

Volvo streamlines production with the trims and packages... part of the reason for Core, Plus, and Ultimate was to further streamline this. When a dealer is giving allocation we are told what model, trim, and motor a car will have. Normally we have until a certain date to add options/packages, or change colors. If I don't have the right one, this is where Volvo has been great, they'd help us find one in exchange. So if I had a customer that wanted a V60cc and I didn't have any in my pipeline, Volvo would work with me to get one, and they'd probably take an XC60 or maybe V90cc away from me. Allocation is the splitting up of the production pie. However, there is no extra pie right now. The next option we normally would have is dealer trading, even for unbuilt cars, but that's not happening either. We generally have enough of the regular stuff, when we have an order request for something we don't have it, no one does, and if they do, we don't have something they'd want back. Think of each model, as a pie.. so the XC90 is pumpkin pie, but the XC90 recharge might be pumpkin pie with whipped cream. Well a V60 PE is one of those specialty personal pies.

So what would currently happen is a dealer can put an order frame in to Volvo. This alerts the regional Volvo allocation manager of where needs are. Again, normally it's formality placeholder while they juggle thing. Our regional manager though asked us not to put any of these orders in, as they will be ignored. Simply put, they know there is no way to fill the orders. The exception to this rule was the V60PE, which we were asked to place any orders we had a few weeks ago with customer names attached. This is likely what your dealer did, and all they could do. I put one order in the day we were told to, and another the following. I told both I didn't expect it to be a sure thing and had been working with both for more than a month prior.

So that's all just the Volvo side really. A dealer is part of the mix too. And the conversation you have is with a dealer, so that can make for a huge variety in the actions and experience. What I do for any car I don't have allocation for is take a $500 deposit (refundable). This puts your name on an excel sheet we keep as a dealership of what car you want and what order you put the request in. As we get allocation we first look at our list and see if any order requests can be fulfilled by that and fill those first. Any unsold allocation becomes available order frames for new customers walking in the door, and eventually becomes on the lot stock cars (if they make it that far). But nothing requires this to be what happens. A sales person could say "yeah I got your order" and then sit on their chair twiddling their thumbs until they have an order. I'm not sure honestly if all sales folks are able to see the order frames... at our dealer anyone in sales can see and modify orders, but when I worked at the Ford store, it wasn't until I was a commercial sales person that I was able to. So now you are left with the sales manager to keep track. I have the best sales manager I've ever worked for now, and generally have always had good sales managers, but I've seen many in the industry that aren't. They are not all motivated for these 6 month out sales and some have a mindset against orders in general. So lots of variables, but based on the communication the OP is getting here, it sounds like a similar process to what we have, or at least, there aren't any red flags showing deviation.
 

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We put a deposit down with our local dealer (Portland, Oregon) to build a 2023 V60 Polestar Engineered T8 about 2 months ago. The dealer has been great but the "build" hasnt been accepted by Volvo and it doesn't sound like there is much information on IF it will be accepted. I've also heard some folks that have confirmed 22 builds got pushed to 23 MY and are still awaiting details.

We want to buy this new and get the federal $7500k rebate and we want the longer range that the 22 Extended and 23's have. I'm hoping someone has some news on the 23 polestars but my dealer is starting to think we might not get this car made.
Looks like @DFrantz pretty much said everything needed to be said from the Volvo side.

Just wanted to chime in with a similar customer experience. I also put down a deposit just over two months ago for an S60 PE. I've been checking in for updates and basically have been told that for my PE trim, to expect delivery of late '22 at the earliest, but probably more likely to be 2023. They've received allocations for other trims that I've been offered but I'm holding out for the PE.
 

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@DFrantz, is this summary correct?

At this point, Volvo isn't asking dealers what they want: they're doing their manufacturing plan and allocating the results to dealership, all (presumably) based on corporate and dealership level stats, etc, with the exception being the V60PE?
 

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@DFrantz, is this summary correct?

At this point, Volvo isn't asking dealers what they want: they're doing their manufacturing plan and allocating the results to dealership, all (presumably) based on corporate and dealership level stats, etc, with the exception being the V60PE?
Not entirely... right now they're not doing anything. We expect to get amendable order in August (but not for V60 PE). We had gotten a early batch of amendable cars, and we got some extras that were not amendable. The windows to have changed them were fairly small compared to normal, Volvo was basically just trying to get us more cars early in the model year than normal... since we don't really have much "leftover" on the '22s.

Volvo's allocation system always tells dealers what we're getting regarding model, trim, and motor. The difference is currently there isn't any flexibility to change that out. The system hasn't really changed at all, just the internal flexibility Volvo normally is able to help with is gone. Before if I had an order from a customer that I didn't have allocation for, I was pretty much always able to get my Volvo rep involved and they would get me one, or I could trade with another dealer. That's what is gone now.
 
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I put down my deposit for a 23 v60PE a couple months ago. My sales rep told me they heard that Volvo is just building the PEs basically one at a time and moving down their order list regardless of dealer location, allocation, etc. Their understanding is Volvo is still working through the 22 orders that didn’t get filled, and will then start on the 23 orders. There’s no timeline on any particular order since they’re not coming out at a consistent rate. They fully intend to build everyone’s order but there’s just no telling how long it will actually take.
 

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Excellent discussion. I ordered a 2021 Mercedes C300 4MATIC coupe that because of the chip shortage, became a 2022. That order never got built. I finally sold my XC60 to Carvanna for an excellent price, and found a very low mileage demo. 2022 V60 CC, Polestar Optimized it, and haven't looked back!

Just to say, strange times for car purchases....chip shortages, moving from gasoline toward electric, and pent up demand post-pandemic.
 

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Pretty much similar situation with my dealer, placed a order earlier this year but it was never confirmed by Volvo. They told me last week that they are still waiting on responses from the district manager on the MY 2023 V60s. At this point, i might just ask my deposit back and look for a nice CPO T6 V60 or V90.
 

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Pretty much similar situation with my dealer, placed a order earlier this year but it was never confirmed by Volvo. They told me last week that they are still waiting on responses from the district manager on the MY 2023 V60s. At this point, i might just ask my deposit back and look for a nice CPO T6 V60 or V90.
Well the only made the T6 V60 in 2019 if you're looking for the SPA cars. They're nearly as rare.
 

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I created an account to share my V60 PSE order experience and status as of today. Working with Volvo White Plains in Westchester, NY.

  • Placed a deposit on 6/6/22 for my preferred spec of V60, black, power lift gate (obviously not many options here).
  • Received confirmation from dealer that Volvo had accepted the order as of 7/21/22.
  • First indicated delivery shown as 11/8/22 with current planned build date for the week of 9/20/22.

I'm unsure if I should have confidence in all of this information but it feels promising. The dealer has been good to work with and offered it at MSRP. Hope this helps anyone else that may be ordering one.
 

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I created an account to share my V60 PSE order experience and status as of today. Working with Volvo White Plains in Westchester, NY.

  • Placed a deposit on 6/6/22 for my preferred spec of V60, black, power lift gate (obviously not many options here).
  • Received confirmation from dealer that Volvo had accepted the order as of 7/21/22.
  • First indicated delivery shown as 11/8/22 with current planned build date for the week of 9/20/22.

I'm unsure if I should have confidence in all of this information but it feels promising. The dealer has been good to work with and offered it at MSRP. Hope this helps anyone else that may be ordering one.
Did the dealer have a pre-existing allocation for that v60? Did you have to wait for that to arrive at all?
 

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I don't believe so - when I gave them the deposit they advised it was before the order books had opened for the car and they would simply place the order when they could and hope Volvo would accept it.
Lucky! My dealer in the NY metro area also submitted an order but it was never accepted by Volvo. Maybe it was all for the best in the end, since the Volvo PHEVs no longer qualify for the federal tax credit. The current price puts it in range of the bigger A6 allroad.
 

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That's really amazing!

Dealers here in Canada cannot even submit orders for the V60 recharge and told not to take anymore deposits! I have a deposit down and it will likely be a MY24 if I am lucky.
 
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