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Before I got the Q5, I cross shopped the X3 and GLC. The X3 was the most fun to drive. But the leather seats were like sitting on plywood. That was a deal killer. The GLC has great seats (the MB Tex is unusually comfortable). However it was the mushiest and least sporty of the three. I drove the GLC recently and it is comfortable but really lazy is the best way to describe it.

I drove the XC60 T5 with Polestar already installed from the factory. It is definitely more lively with the Polestar upgrade but not sure a requirement.
My problem with the X3 (and with the Q5, and the sportseats in the XC60) is the heavy bolstering on the narrow bottoms. I have to drive with my legs squeezed together. I don't mind hard seats though. Firmer the better, at least for my body.

Seating is such a personal issue though. What works for one driver does not work for another.
 

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Before I got the Q5, I cross shopped the X3 and GLC. The X3 was the most fun to drive. But the leather seats were like sitting on plywood. That was a deal killer. The GLC has great seats (the MB Tex is unusually comfortable). However it was the mushiest and least sporty of the three. I drove the GLC recently and it is comfortable but really lazy is the best way to describe it.

I drove the XC60 T5 with Polestar already installed from the factory. It is definitely more lively with the Polestar upgrade but not sure a requirement.
Interestingly, not even BMW in the US market offers all the seat options , same as Audi. Really weird




Interesting texts for seats:
https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a31608605/most-comfortable-seats/

https://spinenation.com/conditions/...ople-with-bad-backs-the-ultimate-buyers-guide

https://drivetribe.com/p/top-5-most...B5_vT8mtTY18MRaytg?iid=NjM-Po2rTruBN1oobDWrVQ

https://www.carleasingpeople.co.uk/blog/comfortable-cars-recommended-for-back-difficulties

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/cars-w...le-front-seats-according-to-consumer-reports/

https://www.consumerreports.org/buying-a-car/cars-with-most-comfortable-front-seats/

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/this-y...uv-front-seats-according-to-consumer-reports/
 

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FWIW the "sports seats" are optional on BMW X* and they are extremely comfortable. The standard seats are garbage.
I was actually complaining about sport seats - and I'm pretty sure those are standard on the X3 in the current model year.

When I had a 3-series wagon, I had the base seats and they were super comfortable. In general, I like BMW seats but the sport ones can be too confining.
 

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FWIW the "sports seats" are optional on BMW X* and they are extremely comfortable. The standard seats are garbage.
In the USA, the standard seats in the X3 x30i and X3 M40i are the “sports seats”. That is all that is available in those models. There is no options or choices for seats. I’m talking about in the USA.
 

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My last two drives were a Q7 and an XC90. Both with their respective top-of-the-line seats. Hands down, the Volvo seats are better. I took lots of 700+ miles trips and, after ten hours in those seats, you could really feel the difference. At first, they feel similar. If anything, the Q7 felt easier to setup - easier to find a comfortable position.
Yet, I could walk out of that Volvo after 10 hours of driving and not even know that I had been sitting down. After the Q7, it was quite a different story.

I know this is about XC60 and Q5 - but I think the seats are very similar.

Amazingly, I also found the XC90 (with air) more stable and better handling (except at low speeds, with the four turning wheels, the Q7 felt more nimble).

Gearbox and engine, well, it's Audi hands down.

Reliability - they both suck. But my last XC90 was a disaster.
 

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I really get a kick out of the thread. The person who opened it has a q5. Wants to know about xc60. But our favorite xc60 basher pollutes the discussion with so much q5 transmission info that everyone leaves the site. Is it even possible to talk about the xc60 on this site ?
I picked up my 21 that I ordered last weekend. I have the the upgraded air cleaner. But not the parking. They discounted the car enough that I really don't care if the air cleaner adds anything. Have owned many cars with no cabin air filter at all. Not anything I was worried about.
Back to all the transmission diagrams that no one is even looking at and 20 pages of q5 pictures. I am sure anyone on here can type in audi. One of the reasons I bought my second Volvo. The first one I bought over 15 years ago is still runs like it did the day I bought it new. The original automatic transmission still works correctly after 252,000 miles. Very few highway miles many stop and start grid locked traffic at very low speeds.
Drive around in Washington DC in your dual clutch when it's raining and traffic is moving around 3mph and report back after 15 years. Oh I forgot I like everyone else on here I don't know anything because I haven't ever driven a car.
 

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^^^^^ What GregD said.
 

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I really get a kick out of the thread. The person who opened it has a q5. Wants to know about xc60. But our favorite xc60 basher pollutes the discussion with so much q5 transmission info that everyone leaves the site. Is it even possible to talk about the xc60 on this site ?
I picked up my 21 that I ordered last weekend. I have the the upgraded air cleaner. But not the parking. They discounted the car enough that I really don't care if the air cleaner adds anything. Have owned many cars with no cabin air filter at all. Not anything I was worried about.
Back to all the transmission diagrams that no one is even looking at and 20 pages of q5 pictures. I am sure anyone on here can type in audi. One of the reasons I bought my second Volvo. The first one I bought over 15 years ago is still runs like it did the day I bought it new. The original automatic transmission still works correctly after 252,000 miles. Very few highway miles many stop and start grid locked traffic at very low speeds.
Drive around in Washington DC in your dual clutch when it's raining and traffic is moving around 3mph and report back after 15 years. Oh I forgot I like everyone else on here I don't know anything because I haven't ever driven a car.
Thanks for your feedback. I actually don't mind the DSG in my Q5. It's the darn seats.
 

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I know I get some customers who actually get excited about having it, but I don't know if it actually gets used after purchase. I think it's silly and clumsy.
It does in our household. Daily. It's not clumsy at all... not sure where you're coming from on this. It's never been clumsy on any SPA for us.
 
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