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Hi all, I’m new to the Volvo world and was extremely excited to pick up a 19’ S60 a couple months ago, I’m pretty proud because I’m only 19, and I love the car but faster is better right? I’ve already installed a Do88 cai and I’m fairly satisfied with it (Butt dyno isn’t as much, but you can’t expect much from “12” horsepower) I know of Viva performance but I’m wondering if there is any performance modifications or websites that would direct me to improved performance that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg like Heico. Would a bigger intercooler help at all? Any aftermarket downpipes? Please don’t direct me to another forum. Thanks!
 

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Congratulations! That's a hell of a nice car at 19. T5 or T6? My best advice is honestly....leave it alone generally. There's just not much in the way of performance available that's not stupid expensive as you've seen and it's really just not a super tunable system, everything has diminishing returns. It's not a car where a downpipe will really do anything. Basically the only thing i'd recommend if you want is the polestar tune by the dealer, but that's about it.
 

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Congratulations! That's a hell of a nice car at 19. T5 or T6? My best advice is honestly....leave it alone generally. There's just not much in the way of performance available that's not stupid expensive as you've seen and it's really just not a super tunable system, everything has diminishing returns. It's not a car where a downpipe will really do anything. Basically the only thing i'd recommend if you want is the polestar tune by the dealer, but that's about it.
Thanks for the reply, it's a t6 momentum. Carfax says it started across country in Florida and that I'm actually the 3rd owner but it still has a warranty so no complaints. And it's a bummer to hear, I figured that it wasn't something like a bmw where you can throw thousands at it and get 600 horsepower. Guess I'll just have to get the polestar model then lol :)
 

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You can get the polestar tune and it will give a good seat of the pants dyno feel improvement. It brings the torque up to 325 and it doesn't affect warranty like other mods would. You could throw thousands at it... but it's always going to be a 2.0, while most of the BMWs that you'll be pulling 600hp out of have more displacement that is untapped. Enjoy the car for what it is, and wait for electrics... they are the future of performance even if they don't sound as cool.
 

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You can get the polestar tune and it will give a good seat of the pants dyno feel improvement. It brings the torque up to 325 and it doesn't affect warranty like other mods would. You could throw thousands at it... but it's always going to be a 2.0, while most of the BMWs that you'll be pulling 600hp out of have more displacement that is untapped. Enjoy the car for what it is, and wait for electrics... they are the future of performance even if they don't sound as cool.
Thanks for the input, I've emailed my local dealer about getting the tune and they never responded so I don't know if they just don't do it? And how much would the tune cost? And I'm also curious on what Volvo will keep and what they will discard when it's time to switch over to electric platforms. Will they just rename the s60 into something else or convert it over completely to electric? I couldn't see why they would considering the sedan segment is dying and everyone wants SUV's
 

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Retail is $1300 for Polestar. You can find different coupons and sales on it from time to time. It does come with a money back deal if you don't like it, but anyone who thinks they might like it seems to be pleased.

I don't think they'll do any renaming. Volvo isn't a fast to make changes company. The S60 has been out for 20 years. We might see it go away at some point, as you said, folks generally want SUVs. I prefer wagons and sedans (and coupes and convertibles) myself, but I'm a minority on the topic. It doesn't cost much more to make an SUV and when the chip shortage hit, it was the S60 orders that got the ax. SUVs are just more profitable and they sell faster.
 

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Polestar is a nice improvement, more for drivability than power, the tune is claimed to alter AWD operation, trans shifting performance and more. It does feel much better, especially in Polestar mode (which is what your Dynamic drive mode will be renamed to with the tune installed)

Tuning is possible, just not yet for most 2019 and newer Volvos as the ECU was changed and has not been "cracked" yet. Hilton tuning is the place to go for this...when he emails me that the new ECU is tunable I will get it. Def not as easy as picking which tune box to buy like BMW or VW/Audi ;-) A nice performance tune done by a specialist should be a good improvement, and likely the only way to take advantage of any of the "hard parts" like intake, intercooler, exhaust.
 

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Is there a breakdown of what all is improved and how with the tune?
I think that is up to each vendor. Vaitrix had some dyno testing sheets they shared and at one time they engaged as a vendor in the community. Rob at Hilton was helpful in explaining a bit about what he does to me. Generally it's complicated and there isn't any particular "things" the vendors can point to other than maybe quoting max boost, so they stick to talking about the results, not "how the sausage is made". You can infer a bit from the product, like with the "piggyback" tuners what sensors do they hook to. I think the Viatrix was a couple of the pressure sensors and the O2 sensor, so you know all they can do is manipulate boost and fuel ratio by "lying" to the ECM. A tuner like Hilton reprogramming the ECM, pretty much everything is available to them, but probably too esoteric for us to understand so you put some trust in their good reputation.

Short answer: Mo' Boost Mo' Powah
 

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I think that is up to each vendor. Vaitrix had some dyno testing sheets they shared and at one time they engaged as a vendor in the community. Rob at Hilton was helpful in explaining a bit about what he does to me. Generally it's complicated and there isn't any particular "things" the vendors can point to other than maybe quoting max boost, so they stick to talking about the results, not "how the sausage is made". You can infer a bit from the product, like with the "piggyback" tuners what sensors do they hook to. I think the Viatrix was a couple of the pressure sensors and the O2 sensor, so you know all they can do is manipulate boost and fuel ratio by "lying" to the ECM. A tuner like Hilton reprogramming the ECM, pretty much everything is available to them, but probably too esoteric for us to understand so you put some trust in their good reputation.

Short answer: Mo' Boost Mo' Powah
Thanks! Volvo is pretty slim with info on what it changes with the polestar tune. Shift points and boost seem to be the top items on the change log. "how the sausage is made" < I feel like I know what you do for a living now. I hear that a lot in my field.
 

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I did a drop in filter, and I've asked Vaitrix in Taiwan to get on their USA store people to stock that stuff again they are still in business but I guess didn't know US store was just not stocking things. I want to get the intake tube thing to go with the filter. I could have a downpipe hand built by some shops here but I an worried that would not be good without a tune to go with it or a way to log the car. I don't know how much the MAF can adjust if you reduce the backpressure with a downpipe without running into bad afr issues. The intercooler would probably just help keep the performance in hot days or after multiple runs.
 

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I was ready to try the Vaitrix, since the wait for ECM tuning seems like it's going to be a while. A nice stage 1 tune is like the first mod I've done on any other car. Let us know what you hear from them on availability!

There is quite a bit of potential in these cars, good chassis, decent motor we know Volvo has at least done the T6 in a higher tune with the previous PE model. We could unleash a bit of that with the right parts.
 
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