Search a bit, it's a well known problem for the 2016

 

Is the same thing also goes for the 2018 T6?

 

In December of 2020, you posted saying you had 100k miles. So by now, you are way out of warranty. But sure, make another post about oil consumption and make claims that the warranty is not being honored but leave out that you aren't even close to being in warranty.

 

FYI.....IT WAS WELL WITHIN WARRANTY WHEN THE PROBLEM STARTED !!

 

You were also complaining 28 days ago by resurrecting an old thread that you had posted to 6 months before that. Give it a break. There is a well known risk to buying a first year model. Your car came with a warranty. If the failure happened outside the warranty...well...that's life. You now have a decision to make if you haven't already. Sell as-is, repair, or buy drums of engine oil.

FYI this is my 7th Volvo since 1984 and I fully plan to continue on with the brand.

 

Actually, I believe Smithfarm first posted about the oil consumption issue in 12/2020, when the mileage was a little over 100K. Would be nice to know what the current mileage is now. I guess he/she still has the vehicle, along with the problem.

I'm sure it's been noted before, but I don't readily know this answer. In the past, did Volvo offered an extended warranty for this oil consumption topic or just offer to review it on a case-by-case basis?

I guess I'm "old school". When I bought cars in the past, as well as my factory ordered V90, I expected/expect piston rings to last the life of the engine, provided proper maintenance is performed in a timely manner and the car isn't abused. IMO, warranty or not, Volvo has a moral obligation to address this down-the-road issue, if the car has been properly cared for and not abused. I don't pretend to know the right answer to this topic. At some point, a car's mileage and/or time-in-service should dictate that no remedy should be provided. Perhaps 10 years or 150K miles, which I expect to be the minimum engine life for a vehicle (and hopefully more).

 

I'm not going to pile on, but the time to complain and seek a resolution is immediately when a problem happens. Stewing and complaining over the issue gets you nowhere. @Tech and others stated this happened 14 months ago. For instance If you were at 105,000 miles then, you stood a chance of Volvo Good Will. Especially being a 5 time Volvo Owner. Trust me, I would have given you great odds that Volvo Stepped Up here.

Fast forward 14 months and you're SH*T out of Luck. Similar to complaining of chest pains, but refusing to go to the hospital. Then suddenly you have a massive heart attack that either leaves you incapacitated or dead. It appears you spent 14 months complaining about it and not trying to resolve the problem in the duration.

Note: Even Worse. I changed 6 months to 14 months. I thought it was December 2021. In fact @Tech said December 2020!

This coming from someone who has helped TONS of Volvo Owners with various issues get resolutions. And even issues NOT related to Volvo. So I don't say this as being disrespectful, but as a recommendation for handling problems moving forward.

 

THE XC 90 CURRENT MILEAGE IS 108,000 I dont drive much and work close to home. If you are into helping people......help me with this BS from Volvo corp.This is where the oil level is sitting with 2346.6 miles and keep in mind I have already added three qts ! Yes I started complaining in Sept of 2020 and couldn't get any relief. So now what? I guess get an attorney to deal with VOLVO ?

 

Welcome to VEA. They tried this, a "tweaked and modified" piston ring which should help in lubrication. Well, couldn't disagree - it lubes the cylinder so well that the oil became a consumption object rather than a replacement part. Good thing is, you're saving so much money from repeated oil changes.

Off the irony, Volvo took 3 years to make a change - at least for the guys who bought newer than 2018, they're on the safer side, as far as I know. But God knows what failure will be next to be mentioned so often. The most extreme case of oil consumption I know of was 3l/1000 km (5,1 quarts/1000 miles).

 

God knows what failure will be next to be mentioned so often.

Cars are extremely complex machines. IMO, my 2020 V90 Inscription T6 is extremely well made and the drivetrain components are first rate, possibly from it being a late edition model. Volvo ironed out the bugs over time. Fast forward to today, with the 2022 Google-based models and, perhaps new issues may arise that will take a few model years to correct. Seems like an endless cycle.

 

2016 XC90 has massive oil consumption problems. Had the oil consumption test......16 qts per 10,000 miles
DON'T BUY IT. Volvo Corp will not honor warranty !!!!!!!!! I trusted the VOLVO name because this is our 5th one.
Driven Volvos for over years and this takes the cake and a loyal Volvo customer.

You mean like this “not honouring the warranty” bill for mine? I can totally see where you are coming from. /s

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2015.5 V60 T5 - 55K miles and wondering if I'm on the verge of a problem - hard to tell because, lacking a simple dipstick and relying on a flaky multi-step electronic read out, keeping track of consumption is difficult. Add to that the fact that Volvo makes it difficult and expensive to begin the diagnostic process should a problem be suspected and you have a picture of a company trying to avoid responsibility for a serious engineering error - not a pretty picture and more than enough to cross Volvo off my list of any future car choices. The Chinese can have them!

 

2015.5 V60 T5 - 55K miles and wondering if I'm on the verge of a problem - hard to tell because, lacking a simple dipstick and relying on a flaky multi-step electronic read out, keeping track of consumption is difficult.

Hmm... The whole idea behind the oil level sensor is to let the car do the monitoring for you (apparently, folks are too lazy to open the hood and check a dipstick these days).

If the system is not telling you to add oil, you don't need to add oil. Easy peasey.

 

Two steps forward, one step backward, maybe.

 

Looks like this thread got hijacked. Peace out.

 

I have the same problem with my 2011 Volvo S60 T6. I finally figured it out by watching a video on IPD website and ordered

BRAKE VACUUM PUMP REPAIR KIT P3. Easy Fix. No More Oil Consumption.

 

I have the same problem with my 2011 Volvo S60 T6. I finally figured it out by watching a video on IPD website and ordered

BRAKE VACUUM PUMP REPAIR KIT P3. Easy Fix. No More Oil Consumption.

Not at all the same. We don't start an oil consumption test if the engine is externally leaking oil.

 

Consider this:

Buy a can of Liqui Moly engine flush, as well as all the supplies to do an oil change. There are videos on FCP Euro for this engine. When the car tells you the oil is low, drive it up on ramps, open the hood, and add the flush to the still running engine. Set a timer on your phone for 15 minutes. When time's up, turn off the engine and drain out all the oil, replace the filter, and refill the oil including Lucas oil stabilizer at 20% system capacity. Maybe a bit more in your case. In my 2012 XC60 T6, it slowed down consumption quite a bit. It was eating 1.25 quart or so every 1000 miles, but I did this procedure on 12-21-2021 at 219,855 miles, and the car is at 221,505 currently. It's probably about half a quart low, but I haven't added any yet.

Also, 10k service intervals are insane. No wonder the things burn oil. Mine was 7500 on conventional but I used to use this car for rideshare so it idled a lot in the city. Even using synthetic, the oil was disgusting at 7500 miles and didn't burn any until I went from 5k intervals to 7500, so I do it every 5k again but the damage is done.

 

Back just 20 years ago, any amount of oil consumption was bad. Now all manufacturers say oil consumption is normal. Excessive oil consumption is the real problem, they say. And those excessive consumption values seem arbitrary, at best. Maybe there's a positive correlation between other parts failing from the amount of oil being consumed, who knows. But there's no way modern ICEs are being built to burn any amount of oil. This is most likely an unintended consequence of trying to maximize fuel efficiency and the technological advancement in synthetic oils. And consumer are the ones that are left holding the bag.

 

My father in law's 2019 Q8 had a low engine oil notice before 10k miles (he already had the first oil change by the dealer). The dealer SA made him believe that oil consumption is normal, and to just add oil as needed between oil changes. I wished he argued it more.

I'm curious how the EPA would be appeased by a manufacturer allegedly normalizing burning excess oil, requiring the customer/dealer to use more oil. Since manufacturers are quick to blame EPA regulations as reasoning behind design changes that end up back firing.

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Like most all mechanical and organic systems, performance of the population is best described using the classic bell-shaped curve.

If you happen to be down in the lower tail, well, that sucks, but c'est la vie.

 

I’m not privy to all the details and this comparison may be technically apples to oranges, but my parents and in-laws have had their motors replaced in the last gen IS250 and 2013 sonata under recalls. The IS was well under 100k miles and the sonata was well over 100k at time of replacement. Seems to me that there is some sort of manufacturing defect with the 2016s that Volvo should proactively address for its owners.

 

Some stories here on Swedespeed show Volvo has been helping foot all or some of the bill even outside of warranty. This is contrary to Hyundai/Kia, for example, that are notoriously denying claims for engine seizures within their 100k mile powertrain warranty, even with all documentation of services. Proactively... not sure. They did redesign the pistons and rings. Which, if I understand it correctly, were already designed to work well until they were redesigned [emoji2957]

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Porsche had the ims bearing issue and after enough heat they decided to cover it for 10 years. If there are even 2% of all 2016 models faced with issue Volvo should do right and do the same thing. My Lexus had a cracked dash issue that was reported. I sold the car to my friend and it’s now over 12 years old and Lexus still changed his dash for him for free. The same can probably be said about the horrible pads on my Xc90. I love the car. But I lost a plug last week at 26k and the rotors warping will never be fixed. Weird issues I don’t expect to happen has happened to this car.

My wife got second Volvo this week for a company car. The android automotive is trash and I will not be ordering another Xc90 after driving the Xc60. The interface is absolute trash. I can’t believe Volvo put it in production.

 

And those are all safety items. An engine burning oil is not considered a safety item (at least according to the knowledgeable techs on here) so would never be recalled.

What we have from Volvo currently is what we're going to get (in terms of coverage), at least until Volvo can make you forget about your old school ICE and get you into a BEV.

 

And those are all safety items. An engine burning oil is not considered a safety item (at least according to the knowledgeable techs on here) so would never be recalled.

What we have from Volvo currently is what we're going to get (in terms of coverage), at least until Volvo can make you forget about your old school ICE and get you into a BEV.

But these same stories also apply to Oil Consumption Issues, too. Safety Issues AND Oil Consumption Issues are both litigated MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

Honda: Honda Oil Consumption

May 26, 2020—Honda reached a settlement with members of a lawsuit over excessive oil consumption in Acura's 3.7-liter J37 V-6 engine.

The models affected include the 2010-2013 MDX; 2011-2012 RL; 2009-2014 TL; and 2010-2013 ZDX. Complainants in the lawsuit were able to get a test performed that showed 1 quart of oil being used ever 2,400 to 2,900 miles. The lawsuit also alleged that the vehicle's oil life monitors were misleading drivers into going longer between service.


Honda has agreed to pay some out-of-pocket expenses and for piston repairs.