[njkelly]

0w20 Worked for Me

Adding a data point here.

I've been having the clicking issue described in this thread for quite a while. I have a 2015.5 V60 2.0 drive-e. Bought the car with about 10K miles. Noticed clicking soon after purchase. Just found it annoying. Now 50K and the issue has been a bit more noticeable. Still not a super common occurrence, but I could pretty much replicate it on demand. Dealer was zero help under warranty. Read this thread prior to my last service and specified that 0w20 be used. My mechanic put Motul 8100 0w20 in. It is not the Volvo specific formulation, but is probably pretty close. Had a long talk with the folks at the garage and they assured me all would be well and it was worth a try. Well, on the way to the garage I replicated the pinging once or twice just to make sure. Got the symptom as usual. Post oil change I cannot generate the LSPI issue. I have tried every scenario that I've ever had the issue. No problems. So the oil switch did the trick for me.

 

[Acholla]

I experienced the same thing. It almost sounded like a bad CV joint, but I was able to establish that the noise was coming from the motor. I would usually experience it only once a day during hard acceleration, and it would not recur on subsequent hard accelerations. I decided to change gas stations and upgrade to V-power fuel, and after a few weeks the problem went away and has never recurred. I suspect the fuel I was using before was adulterated or possibly contaminated by water due to water ingress in the station's underground tanks.

 

[narcisgeorgescu]

I had the same issue with my XC60 Drive_e T5.

There is a flaw with some of the initial drive e engines due to piston rings tighter tolerance. Due to this issue the engine will start eating oil and lose power when suddenly accelerating with a clicking noise.

Solution (for my car): Volvo replaced the pistons and rings in a goodwill. Since then, there are few months since, I don’t have these problems anymore.

 

[Gilberto Rocha]

I live in Brazil and my car started to do this with 115.000km (71.500 miles).

Now it has 150.000 km (93.000 miles)

Here, all kinds of our pump gas has 25% of Ethanol. Here we have 87 IAD ((RON + MON)/2), 91 IAD AND 96 IAD, and my car had the same problem with all of them.

i put 10 Liters of E100 per tank, extra, using 87 IAD.

So, I'm running under E36 (No, I don't have a different map at my ECU). No CEL, no hesitation, no more ticking and i'm not running lean.

I can't explain why it solved the problem, but, we have a good way to understand what happens.

I saw many Gas Stations at Florida selling E85 (i don't know if they sell at other states). But, you can test (at your own risk) E36, mixing E85 + gas pump (using a calculator to find the exact mixing)

Gilberto

 

[WVRICK]

I had a 2016 S60 R Deign T5 that was doing the same thing. This is 6 years after the problem surfaced on this site and Volvo still does not know what it is. Why it is happening or how to fix the problem. After repair attempts I left and drove to Toyota and traded for a Camry. Enough is enough. If anyone wants a class action I’ll join in.

 

[WVRICK]

Add me to the Drive-E engine clicking list

I too have been lurking on this site since my 2015 Volvo S60 started making the clicking/rattling sound/loss of power a few months ago and I finally created a login. I also have been getting the runaround from the dealership. It's become clear from this thread and elsewhere online Volvo is telling all dealerships across the country the same thing to tell customers. First they put in the new spark plugs after the recall (while omitting to tell anyone the reason for the recall). The new spark plugs helped for all of a week. Then when my car was back to clicking virtually every time I drove the car, I took the car back. After I duplicated it within 2 minutes of driving with the head foreman pulling onto an on-ramp, they claimed they couldn't duplicate it again after that. (Why exactly do they need to duplicate it a second time after I proved to you you didn't fix it the first time? Since I've gotten the car back three days ago I can't even go a single ride without the engine clicking at least once. ) So then they wasted the week making me go back and forth to the dealership, wasting gas and time, all to tell me what they tell everyone else: change the fuel to 93 despite the fact that the manual says 87 is okay and was the basis of my buying the car in the first place. Clearly some people have wasted their money on this "fix" of blaming it on the customer (I myself purchased many containers of Techron before even bringing my car in the first time) and it does not solve the problem. All it does it buy Volvo time and hope people's cars go off warranty or they just give up trying to fight with the dealership. I don't know about you but to me this screams manufacturing defect and Volvo is going the way of Ford and the T-bone issue, VW and the emissions scandal, etc. etc. Unfortunately for them I am a class action plaintiffs' attorney and I am not accepting that this is just how I have to accept the car. I spent thousands and thousands of dollars buying this car in full less than a year ago and it is ridiculous how many times I've had to take it in for service. (Don't get me started with the autostart problems.) Please send me a message if you are interested in joining together and making Volvo pay for this manufacturing defect. The cover up is worse than the crime, Volvo. I'm not going away and I am going to share this problem with the world. #volvoenginclick This is only the beginning...

I would be happy to join your class action. I gave up and traded it in a Toyota Camry.

 

[WVRICK]

I'm in South Florida where it's typically hot and hotter. Minimum humidity is around 50%, if this helps.
I can pretty much duplicate this issue at will. My lease is up in June of 18; I can't be bothered going back to the dealer for this or anything else. I'm going Japanese for my next car.

I left the garage yesterday after the problem wasn't resolved. Drove to the Toyota dealer and came home with a new Camry.

 

[MyVolvoS60]

Just a thought here. When you have a problem, it's a very good idea to take a video of the issue. This way, even if the tech can't figure it out, you have evidence of the issue. And can always request that the dealer create a help ticket so that Volvo's master tech's can see / hear whats going on.

 

[WVRICK]

BUT, I'd bet "dollars-to-donuts" that you have a different engine tune needed to meet European emission standards which are different from the ones in the States.

The "final" analysis of what the problem really is and how it is corrected will be legend when that day finally happens (and I sure hope it will soon).

Four years later and there is still no fix and Volvo acted like they never heard of this problem before I had an issue. I traded for a Toyota. Even the tailpipes had carbon buildup which indicates a problem that is more than just a ping on hard acceleration. I only stepped on the gas enough to cause the lunging about once a month. The carbon tells me there is another issue.

 

[WVRICK]

I got a response back from Volvo. Bart told me VP of customer service and CEO reviewed my concern and stated it was due to either non premium or low quality fuel caused it. (The car has always had Premium fuel) They stated the clicks are normal as well as a slight loss of power. They declined any extension of the warranty and had the audacity to advise me that they performed they fix in an effort to resolve the 'slight' issue (which they now state is normal) as well as to 'satisfy' me. To satisfy me would have been to build a car without a built in dangerous defect in the first place. Also...since this is an issue with pre-detonation, the extended warranty I reviewed from Tucson Volvo has that as an exclusion. Basically, Volvo is doing NOTHING to resolve the issue. I'm filing a complaint with NHTSA but don't think that will help. I'm thinking the Honda dealer is looking awfully tempting right now...

I received rude responses from Volvo NA when I called about this issue. They told me I'm the first to have the issue, then told me it is normal. I traded for a Camry yesterday and will never own another Volvo. I think we need a class action law suit.

 

[WVRICK]

OK, it's been two weeks since my service that replaced the pistons, rings and plugs. Since then I have had the issue pop up about 4 times. That is great because before the last service it was happening several times a day, every day. Four times is better than before, but still not fixed. So right or wrong, here are my thoughts.

I experienced the problem around 9500 miles, as prior to that the car ran flawlessly. It was before my 10,000 mile service, so it was not a software update that caused it. Up to that point I used 87 octane exclusively as that is what the manual said it would run on and I purposely did not buy a T6 so I could run 87 octane. At its worse, I could make the car misbehave at will. Nine months ago I switched to 91 octane exclusively and things improved. The issue was still there, but less frequent and I could not predict when it would happen. However, over time the frequency increased until recently it was back to everyday and again I was able to make the car misbehave at will.

I think I got the new pistons, rings and plugs because I kept contacting Volvo Corp. and complaining about my car. I think changing the pistons, rings and plugs gets the engine close to new and resets some normal wear that exacerbates the problem (as we like to say, kicking the can down the road). I believe if nothing changes, in 4000 or 5000 miles my car will be back to running poorly. I believe every E5 engine will develop this problem after it has enough miles on it. I believe this issue is probably scaring the crap out of Volvo. I believe Volvo will eventually come up with a fix and that fix will be a software patch. Again, these are just my thoughts and your mileage may vary.

So far no fix as of 02/12/21. Class action time. I traded mine off at a big loss because i feared total engine failure.

 

[MyVolvoS60]

So far no fix as of 02/12/21. Class action time. I traded mine off at a big loss because i feared total engine failure.

Volvo hasn't been class actioned on the piston ring issue where cars from circa 2011-2016 burned through oil, requiring an engine tear down, to replace pistons and rings. In the worst cases, the cylinder walls were scored, and a whole new engine was warranted.

Somehow I doubt this will reach the level of action you're gunning for.

 

[WVRICK]

Volvo hasn't been class actioned on the piston ring issue where cars from circa 2011-2016 burned through oil, requiring an engine tear down, to replace pistons and rings. In the worst cases, the cylinder walls were scored, and a whole new engine was warranted.

Somehow I doubt this will reach the level of action you're gunning for.

Class actions are up to us owners. It is obvious Volvo doesn't care and are deflecting the issue. I have contacted an attorney about a class action.

 

[WVRICK]

If you have been reading this thread for a few months, you know that I've been trying to work with my local Volvo dealer ( Volvo of Tampa ) to resolve this issue for some time, with no luck.
The service manager wrote me today and told me that Volvo said there is nothing wrong with the car. The car is working as designed.

Not sure how they can view the videos above and tell me the car is working as designed. This frustrates me so much.
I can easily trade my V60 tomorrow, that is not a problem, it just bothers me that they can say this is working as designed.

I have called Volvo customer service a couple of times and they always tell me to take it back to the dealer.
Contemplating taking it to another dealer to see if I can get some justice but I'm getting tired. Maybe it is time for another car since my warranty expires in about 1000 miles anyway. Don't want to own this car with this issue out of warranty.

I would recommend avoiding buying a Volvo with the edrive engine until they have this resolved.
For those in the Tampa area, I would avoid Volvo of Tampa due to my experience dealing with them. Don't get me wrong, they seem nice enough but lack the interest in really investigating the tough issues and assuring the customer. They were very dismissive and always gave me the impression that I was bothering them with this issue.
Monetarily, I do understand their position because if they spend 2 hours investigating the issue and they can't find a part to replace or a specific fix, they don't get paid. ( that is what I was told )

Anyway, good luck to everyone having this issue.

Considering Volvo has not resolved this issue and acts like they could care less I suggest none of us should buy another Volvo.

 

[WVRICK]

The Drive-E will get there, will just take some time. In fact, it will have to, Volvo is betting the company on it.

They couldn't give me another Volvo after this problem and their ****ty attitude.

 

[WVRICK]

Well that is good news in that they are not ignoring the issue and are attempting to work up a solution. I can just imagine how frustrating this can be on a new and very expensive car. Hang in there!

They just said they are working on a fix to shut us up. Here it is 2021 and I traded my Volvo for a Toyota.

 

[MyVolvoS60]

Class actions are up to us owners. It is obvious Volvo doesn't care and are deflecting the issue. I have contacted an attorney about a class action.

An attorney has to take the lawsuit. The lawsuit has to be beneficial to owners. Half the time, even if there is a class actions, the lawyers walk away with boatloads of money. The people needing compensation then see the leftover scraps.

 

[brett_xc90]

well, does it in sport mode too. tach stays put, but power drops

Maybe a gearbox issue then?

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[brett_xc90]

I will never understand why someone would ever put regular gas in a forced induction engine. The manual states you can run on regular, but that premium is recommended. When in doubt go with the manufacturers recommendation.

Can depend on climate. Higher octane doesn't give more power. It just detonates at a higher temperature.
In hotter climates, a higher octane helps reduce early detonation.
In cooler climates, both should work as well as each other with little difference in performance or consumption.

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[B-SIDE]

An attorney has to take the lawsuit. The lawsuit has to be beneficial to owners. Half the time, even if there is a class actions, the lawyers walk away with boatloads of money. The people needing compensation then see the leftover scraps.

Please provide the attorney's info... I'm interested in participating as well
Even though I traded my 2015.5 V60 and bought a CPO 2019 V90, i still don't like the way Volvo NA handled the "known issue" fortunately the local dealer and their mech staff really did everything they could and continued to do so consonantly replacing rings / spark plugs etc...