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Q: Who locked the thread: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=118029" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=118029</A> ?<p>A: GrecianVolvo, who now works for Volvo Car Corp. But he's apparently still a mod on SS.<p>Is this what SS has come to? "Shutter Control" being exercised by Volvo employees over what is said or not about their models?<p>Debate amongst yourselves...
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (RearWheelPaul)

Paul, <br>With all due disrespect - You've done it by repeating certified and patent lies. <br>Yes, I call you patent and certified liar. <br>You knowingly and intentionally provide false statements of facts with reckless disregard to their falsity by taking facts out of context. <p>Want an example? <p>RWPaul said: <br>"Fact: The XC70 weighs 4000 lbs. This is quite heavy for a passenger car." <p>The reality is: <p>Toyota Venza AWD V-6 – 4045 Lbs <br>Nissan Murano AWD - 4,141 <br>Lexus RS AWD - 4,343 <br>BMW 535Xi wagon - 4145 lbs <br>MB E350 4matic wagon - 4,245 lbs. <br>Audi A6 Avant – 4222 lbs <br>Volvo XC70 T6 AWD - 4092 lbs <p>It seems that XC70 is quite LIGHT for the modern passenger car in its segment <p>RWPaul said: <p>"Fact: The price of the XC70 is well above average" <p>Again, the same tactics. Average of what? <p>Care to compare? <p>Toyota Venza AWD V-6 – 4045 Lbs - $29,250 <br>Nissan Murano SL AWD - 4,141 – base price - $33,280 <br>Lexus RS AWD - 4,343 – base price - $38,300 <br>BMW 535Xi wagon - 4145 lbs – base price - $55,800 <br>MB E350 4matic wagon - 4,245 lbs. – base price - $57,250 <br>Audi A6 Avant – 4222 lbs – base price - $53,310 <br>Volvo XC70 T6 AWD - 4092 lbs – base price - $32,575 <p><br>Shame on you, Paul, shame on you!!! <p><br>
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (gascos80)

Your right, Gascos. The XC70 isn't 4000 lbs. It's almost 4100 lbs.<p>That's really heavy for a passenger car.<p>Thanks for clearing that up.<p>On the issue of price, great comparisons. I didn't know that anyone was <U>dumb</U> enough to suggest that the XC70 is in the same class as the MB E350 wagon. Or the Lexus RS. Or the BMW 535Xi wagon. Or the Audi A6 Avant.<p>Until now.<p>Thanks for coming out of the closet (again) Gascos.<p>You're quite the fool. You've said it yourself.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gascos80</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Many people in my immediate circle call me crazy, referring to my car purchasing decisions.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (RearWheelPaul)

Jesus Christ, will you GIVE IT A REST already
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (JRL)

You must be joking.<p>We were having a Volvo-based discussion (last thread) up to the point where big brother stepped in. <p>And for what? Criticizing the product that many have apparently rejected? Since when is that a crime?<p>If principles were given a rest, but then they wouldn't be principles.<p>Guys like Lev must speak must speak their minds, even if that presses the bounds of propriety.<p>I do hope you can understand...<p><br>
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (RearWheelPaul)

Paul,<p>I agree with Gascos on the comparisons. He is sighting all wheel drive wagons/crossovers that are offered in the USA. Maybe he should put Subaru in there too, purely because it is an AWD wagon/family car. But then again who would be foolish enough to compare a Volvo to a Subaru?<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (gabepv544)

Oh,<p>I am sorry,<p>Subaru Outback 3.0 Limited (6-cyl) - base price $32,095 - 3730 Lbs - 17/24 MPG and not even ULEV!!!, just LEVII<p>Subaru Tribeca Limited (6-cyl) - base price $32,595 - 4140 Lbs - 16/21 MPG<p><br>Volvo XC70 AWD - $32, 575 - 4092 Lbs - 16/23 MPG - ULEV II<p><br>Care to compare?
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (RearWheelPaul)

What they need to produce is this.......<br>(computer rendering, V60R)<br><A HREF="http://s732.photobucket.com/albums/ww329/JRL1194/?action=view&current=8070502_002_1L.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww329/JRL1194/8070502_002_1L.jpg" BORDER="0"></A>
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (JRL)

Looks nice, Jim,<br>But it would be high $30K, 3700+ Lbs, 15/22 vehicle with a lot of "why-tech" that RWP will not approve under any circumstances. The last "appropriate" Volvo was this<br> <br><IMG SRC="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/lberkovich/240.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (gascos80)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gascos80</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks nice, Jim,<br>But it would be high $30K, 3700+ Lbs, <p> ]</TD></TR></TABLE><br>What do you think a P2 R weighs? (3700+ lbs) <br>All the other "high performance" wagons?<br>(over 4000 lbs)<br>THEY cost over 80K!<br>You're way off base here<br>
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (JRL)

My bad,<br>I was trying to be conservative in my estimates... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (RearWheelPaul)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RearWheelPaul</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Q: Who locked the thread: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=118029" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=118029</A> ?<p>A: GrecianVolvo, who now works for Volvo Car Corp. But he's apparently still a mod on SS.<p>Is this what SS has come to? "Shutter Control" being exercised by Volvo employees over what is said or not about their models?<p>Debate amongst yourselves...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Again with the conspiracy theories. <br> <p>Thanks for playing...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Needsdecaf at 11:33 AM 5-17-2009</i>
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (RearWheelPaul)

Should have left it open, the more you type the more foolish you look.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RearWheelPaul</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Q: Who locked the thread: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=118029" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=118029</A> ?<p>A: GrecianVolvo, who now works for Volvo Car Corp. But he's apparently still a mod on SS.<p>Is this what SS has come to? "Shutter Control" being exercised by Volvo employees over what is said or not about their models?<p>Debate amongst yourselves...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You're just jealous that Yannis' career is moving forward and yours isn't <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> You must find it particularly bothersome that Volvo actually <B>listens</B> to Yannis... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 2010 V70 R-Design (V70 Brad)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V70 Brad</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You're just jealous that Yannis' career is moving forward and yours isn't <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> You must find it particularly bothersome that Volvo actually <B>listens</B> to Yannis... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>No way man, Paul drives a Hertz rental car a couple times a year.<br>He has WAYYY more knowledge and influence than Yannis. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>No way man, Paul drives a Hertz rental car a couple times a year.<br>He has WAYYY more knowledge and influence than Yannis. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>...and i think he stayed at a holiday Inn Express once. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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