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I plan to buy a US spec 2007 XC90 next spring for Euro delivery. We will be useing it for a 6 month vacation through Europe next year. I noticed that the 2007 price list says that the Navigation system won't work in Europe on the 2007. Is that true? We were really counting on this thing guiding us to POI's and campgrounds as well as general guidance. <p>Thanks,<br>Mike
 

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Re: 2007 XC90 European Navigation system (pompa1)

Mike,<p>Yes, that is correct, the 2007 XC90 will have the map data pre-loaded on the hard drive. There will be no DVD's as with previous year models.<p>William<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pompa1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I plan to buy a US spec 2007 XC90 next spring for Euro delivery. We will be useing it for a 6 month vacation through Europe next year. I noticed that the 2007 price list says that the Navigation system won't work in Europe on the 2007. Is that true? We were really counting on this thing guiding us to POI's and campgrounds as well as general guidance. <p>Thanks,<br>Mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: 2007 XC90 European Navigation system (William)

I see now that it is a hard drive rather than a DVD. Is it possible to have the European data loaded on a US spec and then have the data reloaded after return to the US or when the vehicle is returned for delivery to the US? It would seem to me that the euro nav system data would be very important to anyone taking euro delivery. I would think that the dealer in the US should have that capability. We are really looking forward to this SUV and this trip. Initially my wife said there was no way she would give up her 2002 Grand Cherokee Overland until she saw the XC90 and I promised 6 months in Europe minimum. I fear it will be a battle if we have to look forward to getting lost daily as she reads maps upside down typically. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Thanks,<br>mike
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pompa1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see now that it is a hard drive rather than a DVD. Is it possible to have the European data loaded on a US spec and then have the data reloaded after return to the US or when the vehicle is returned for delivery to the US? It would seem to me that the euro nav system data would be very important to anyone taking euro delivery. I would think that the dealer in the US should have that capability. We are really looking forward to this SUV and this trip. Initially my wife said there was no way she would give up her 2002 Grand Cherokee Overland until she saw the XC90 and I promised 6 months in Europe minimum. I fear it will be a battle if we have to look forward to getting lost daily as she reads maps upside down typically. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Thanks,<br>mike</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mike,<p>I am sure reloading data is a breeze but it will not be free. I am sure info about that will be rleased soon.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: 2007 XC90 European Navigation system (GrecianVolvo)

Thanks Yannis! <p>That is great news. I certainly don't mind paying to have this available. It makes more sense than messing around with a hand held. My son received his Garmin 350 yesterday and it is nice but I like the larger screen on the built in units. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Mike,<p>I just checked with my Volvo Factory rep and he tells me it is "flash drive" based and no modifications can be made to it. <p>Perhaps you can take a portable navigation unit with you. I have a Garmin iQue and like it. I have not used it in Europe though.<p>William<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pompa1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see now that it is a hard drive rather than a DVD. Is it possible to have the European data loaded on a US spec and then have the data reloaded after return to the US or when the vehicle is returned for delivery to the US? It would seem to me that the euro nav system data would be very important to anyone taking euro delivery. I would think that the dealer in the US should have that capability. We are really looking forward to this SUV and this trip. Initially my wife said there was no way she would give up her 2002 Grand Cherokee Overland until she saw the XC90 and I promised 6 months in Europe minimum. I fear it will be a battle if we have to look forward to getting lost daily as she reads maps upside down typically. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Thanks,<br>mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: 2007 XC90 European Navigation system (William)

William,<p>That is truely unfortunate as I think that will drive OSD customers away from buying this option and possibly the vehicle. It seems like Volvo should rethink this or possibly just charge for the option to have both maps installed. Flash memory is cheap and I'm sure Volvo would profit. The hand held/ portable units are just to inconvienient in my opinion. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Good luck in San Diego. We lived there for 12 years in North County and loved it. My daughter and her husband are still there.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>William</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mike,<p>I just checked with my Volvo Factory rep and he tells me it is "flash drive" based and no modifications can be made to it. <p>Perhaps you can take a portable navigation unit with you. I have a Garmin iQue and like it. I have not used it in Europe though.<p>William</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That can't be right. How will the map updates be made then? Are they going to replace the whole flash memory instead of just reloading it? I guess Navteq will have to start shipping map updates on flash memory instead of DVDs.
 

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Mike,<p>I don't like the idea either, but perhaps there will be changes later. <p>By the way, I am in Northern California... not far from you.<p>Yannis is the one who is moving to San Diego.<p>William<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pompa1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">William,<p>That is truely unfortunate as I think that will drive OSD customers away from buying this option and possibly the vehicle. It seems like Volvo should rethink this or possibly just charge for the option to have both maps installed. Flash memory is cheap and I'm sure Volvo would profit. The hand held/ portable units are just to inconvienient in my opinion. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Good luck in San Diego. We lived there for 12 years in North County and loved it. My daughter and her husband are still there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: 2007 XC90 European Navigation system (pompa1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pompa1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">William,<p>That is truely unfortunate as I think that will drive OSD customers away from buying this option and possibly the vehicle. It seems like Volvo should rethink this or possibly just charge for the option to have both maps installed.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I totally agree. Let's all not get too excited (one way or another) and see how things develop. There HAS to be a solution to this issue.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Flash memory is cheap and I'm sure Volvo would profit.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I also agree.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The hand held/ portable units are just to inconvienient in my opinion. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I, TOTALLY, disagree. I also have (like William) a Garmin iQue3600 and I love it. I have taken it with me all over the U.S. I have learned to navigate around San Diego because of that little unit. I am planning on it helping me drive from PA to CA, when we move.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good luck in San Diego. We lived there for 12 years in North County and loved it. My daughter and her husband are still there.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks.<p>North County is nice...And getting even more built up, from what I have seen.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: 2007 XC90 European Navigation system (GrecianVolvo)

Yannis,<p>Sorry about my confusion about who was heading for San Diego. I'm new to this board. I will agree that I am maybe being a little narrow minded about the portable units. I was all set to buy a Garmin because I think they are the best until I saw that pop up screen on the XC90. Fell in love, gotta get it, and hopefully Volvo will fix it. I will probably still end up buying the 350 or 360 as an additional gadget for when I'm not in the car.<p>Can't wait to retire and start this trip.<p>Thanks for all your's and Williams guidance,<br>Mike
 

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Mike,<p>If you use Outlook to manage your contacts and want these names in your portable navigation device, you might want to consider the Garmin iQue M5. It will allow you to sync Outlook contacts with your Garmin. The M5 was not available when I got my Garmin iQue 3600 which is Palm based. <p>William
 

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Pompa1<p>I agree with you! After having a portable one (Dell Axim with Pharos GPS) and now having a NAV system in my S60 (2006) it is quite a difference. The portable one is handy, however, slow, not as accurate and less possibilities (especially in case of an European Spec car -> they have road traffic build in and will guide you avoiding traffic jams, accidents etc). Not even to mention the cables, glue on placement and the theft protection (= always take it out of sight while parking a car).<p>So no, a portable device would just get a C+ <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> at the most while the NAV in my Volvo gets an A+ <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> .<p>In one way or the other, the thousands of $$ needed to be defended!<p><br>Tony J.
 

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Pompa1, another thought, see if you can rent a portable over here. I have a Garmin V with a European map set and it's accuracy beats the pants off Volvo's. Another nice thing about the newer portables, a lot of them have the Traffic Management Channel capability to recieve and re-route based on the traffic information broadcast. A US Spec Volvo does not have the second FM reciever necessary to make use of this free European service. In the States you have to subscribe to it via satellite radio. The biggest head-ache to driving in Europe is the traffic jams. With a portable GPS navigator WITH the TMC capability, it will give you the best possible route to get around the traffic. Worth their weight in gold!
 

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I have a Cobra after market nav system that recieved FM traffic information in the USA. I am so far not terribly impressed with it's abilities, yes it does show seeminly acurate traffic, but without traffic information about surface streets it's detours can more often than not take longer than the original route. All in all I prefer the Volvo solution on our '06 V70R.
 

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William,<br>Does this only apply to the XC90 or is this change going to be for all 07 Volvo models?<br>Thanks,<br>Paul
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>OTPAS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">William,<br>Does this only apply to the XC90 or is this change going to be for all 07 Volvo models?<br>Thanks,<br>Paul</TD></TR></TABLE><p>All MY07 Volvos will utilize the "new" Nav unit.<p>Yannis
 
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