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I've relied on this excellent forum in the past prior to getting an OSD 2004 XC 70 and we love it!<p>Now I'm looking to replace a classic '95 Olds Aurora that is getting tired. We are looking at a 2006 S80 AWD with a 2.5 T (46,000 m) that is in really great shape, dealer maintained, or alternatively a new 2008 70V. I think I have the analysis of the S80 in hand except would appreciate any comments on market price (Kelly Blue book is $17,500-but the market is erratic at best). If we get this vehicle I plan to get its ICU reprogrammed at IPD as well as that of my XC70 and upgrade the airfilter systems on both cars.<p>The MRP on the V70 FWD is $40,145. The dealer is asking $32,995. The sense I have is that for this market they are still quite a bit overpriced. Counsel on pricing this one will be greatly appreciated.<p>Now to a technical question on the V70. First a statement to which comments are of course welcomed. My impression from reading this forum is that this is a good vehicle (about 500 lbs lighter than the XC version- and therefore probably is better at acceleration and fuel economy). Again, reading this forum I believe we can expect slightly better than its Fed measured fuel economy as we are light-footed drivers (but not as good as we get with our XC70 which is about 29 highway). <p>In reading other forums, I have picked up that in the early introduction of the new wagon design, there may have been some problems with the Transmission/Haldex AWD system. I have no knowledge of the V70 six speed tranny (I assume it is the same one that is in the XC70) and would appreciate confirmation of that and comments about its reliability and match to the V70's engine for the lighter weight of this vehicle. I've gone over the vehicle to find its date of manufacture in case that is important (re: mods to correct early manufacture challenges), but so far haven't found it. Its not in the driver door frame, so must be under the hood-haven't looked there yet.<p>That gets a start on asking you to join in this "adventure." I will greatly appreciate any experience/wisdom.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: 2006 S80 AWD and "New" 2008 70V-Current Market Price and Other Question(s) (ORGramps)

Sorry to have included the comments re: the S80 in this forum. I have since started a new topic on that subject in the S80 forum. Therefore, please reference only the comments and questions re: V70 with regard to this topic. Thanks! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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If money, as I can imagine, is not an issue (looking at 15K to 32K cars at the same time do not indicate real shortage of cash to me), I would go with 08.<p>The EUCD (current generation of Volvo's) based cars demonstrate really good reliability. So I definitely would not worry about this one. Unfortunately for the truth, we used to have a "disgruntled Volvo enthusiast" here on SS, who generated a lot of biased and unwarranted negative noise about transmissions, AWD and Haldex. The only justifiable concerns I have "distilled" from reading the forum were about the old T6/GM 4-speed tranny combination and the angle gear of S60R/V70R.<p>Neither will be the case for you.<p>I do have a couple of question though - why not a new S80? You already have a wagon and Volvo offers $6500 discounts on 09 S80.<p>I have replaced 00 2.9 S80 with 08 3.2 S80 last September and cannot be happier. A great car and a noticeable improvement over the 00 in all aspects, with the same fuel economy. In my experience, newer Volvos have exactly the same fuel economy as the analogous P2 models. The advertised difference is due to the different EPA measuring techniques.<p>And another question - why not OSD again?<p>I would do exclusively OSD for as long as I buy new Volvos. (I did 3 trips already).<br>
 

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Re: 2006 S80 AWD and "New" 2008 70V-Current Market Price and Other Question(s) (rovermark)

Great overall experience that makes car purchase very personal and very different <p>+ <p>No-hassle lucrative discount. I have not yet heard of less expensive way to have a car and European vacation together. <br>On each of our three trips we had easily saved $12-14K . I have never heard of such deep discounts on any of Volvo's yet. <p>But this is just a beginning. As the popular MC commercial says - the great fun that money can't buy, for everything else is the MC.<br>
 

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Re: 2006 S80 AWD and "New" 2008 70V-Current Market Price and Other Question(s) (gascos80)

Gascos80,<p>Thanks for your comments. Money is and isn't an issue. Hows that for an answer? We are retired and like most have been hit by the Gov'ts bad management. However, we are doing ok with prudent management.<p>With regard to the car purchase, I look for the best value while trying to keep the costs low. In that regard, from the same dealer I've now found a 2007 S80 well equipped (but no adaptive cruise or Blis) with only 10,000 miles on it . They are asking $25,888. I've also initiated a query to see if there are any 2009 S80s left in the OSD program. Your comments on the wagon vs an S80 are also appreciated. As our bodies get older, the smoother ride on long trips (we usually go down to So. Cal. three times a year ands that's 2,000 miles rd. trip) is very desirable. Therefore, if we purchase I'm now convinced it will be an S80.<p>Your summary of the OSD program to Rovermark is right on. I would refer him to the OSD forum for complete info. We went in 2004. We got two free round trip tickets, stopped in London for four days at an extra cost of $495 with three nights in a 4 star hotel plus an extra night in Sweden. We got a 7% discount on the car. And, an important thing you did not mention, is that I was able to add things to the XC70 that are not options for a US purchased vehicle. These included load levelers (really neat if you ever haul extra weight) and fog light covers to protect the lenses from flying rock damage. How does Volvo do this? Our car came shipped (shipping is included) back to the US as a used car. Therefore the import duty is reduced substantially. Volvo's OSD is the best I have found. BMW and Mercedes don't come anywhere near.<p>Tomorrow we are scheduled to drive north to look at the two used S80s. We'll see.<p>
 

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The money answer is what I had in mind.<p>On a substance - the S80 IMHO is a much better highway cruiser than MB - E and Audi - 6. It cannot even be compared with the toughness (read roughness) of BMW - 5. The S80 would be the right choice for those long trips.<p>I am heading in opposite direction to visit my friend in Ashland in a couple of weeks.<p>I was one of the first people benefiting from the OSD color customization program last year, and with the help of one of the former SS OSD gurus, Yannis, got the VERY FIRST 3.2 Black Ember/Beige SOFT leather/Classic Wood trim/Wooden steering wheel in US. Back in 2008 that combination was only available for V8. And even today, you get those features for T6, but not for the 3.2.<p>I am a bit puzzled with your comment on import duties - you should not pay any, it is all included in the OSD price, but we can move that discussion to the OSD thread.<p>Keep us posted...
 

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Re: 2006 S80 AWD and "New" 2008 70V-Current Market Price and Other Question(s) (gascos80)

Short response re: import duties. We did not pay. Volvo did. However since the car is used when imported, Volvos duty invoice is less. What I was implying is that in effect, Uncle Sam pays for the overseas trip for us because his duty income is reduced.
 

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Re: 2006 S80 AWD and "New" 2008 70V-Current Market Price and Other Question(s) (ORGramps)

Just to confirm if my understanding about the duty is correct, I checked over in the OSD forum. My question and the response is found at: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?&id=115445&postid=1248613#1248613" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...48613</A> <br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Yes, I've got it. Thank you.
 

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Re: 2006 S80 AWD and "New" 2008 70V-Current Market Price and Other Question(s) (gascos80)

Due to the changing plans of the initiator of this thread, it is being concluded on the following thread in S80 (2007-current): <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=102" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...d=102</A>. Thanks for your patience.
 
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