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Wow. Just had a warning come up on the v50, urgent transmission problem. When I was driving into service, it was stuck in 4th (it's an automatic, I've been driving it in auto-manual mode) and when I tried to downshift it skipped 3rd and went into 2nd. Later I couldn't downshift into 2nd, so it was stuck in 4th. Auto mode didn't help things.

They say a new transmission would be $6,600 without tax! Crazy. Can't imagine spending that on the 2005. Other options are to get a used transmission in there, no warranty of course. Or sell it for parts...? It's been a great car, few parking lot door dings on the exterior but otherwise solid. 142k miles, I bought it at 75k. It's Red, I'm in the SF Bay Area.

Any advice?

Here's the spec list from Volvo from my VIN:

HEATED FRONT SEATS
FOGLIGHTS FRONT IN SPOILER
HEADLAMP WASHER
DYNAMIC SPORT SUSPENSION
AUDIO CONTROLS IN STEERING WHEEL
RAIN SENSOR
ALUMINIUM INLAYS
PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
6 DISC CD PLAYER
205/50/17" SAGITTA ALLOY WHEELS
 

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If you don't wanna go used or can't find a better price on a new one I'd just part it and buy another V50 IMO.
That sucks good luck though
 

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What codes were stored in the TCM?
 

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Why not have the trans rebuilt? Why is that not an option? You can go to an independent trans shop, probably spend $1000-1500, and walk away with fresh transmission internals and a warranty.
 

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Hi Jeff. Thanks for the advice. The Volvo dealership hasn't pulled the codes and inspected yet (they're doing that this am), but yesterday the only options they ran by me were: completely new and a used/rebuilt unit. I'll check a local shop on a rebuild.

And I'll post codes once I hear...
 

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independent transmission shop FTW.
6600 is insane.
 

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the car isnt even worth 6,600.
buy a used transmission, it really cant be that hard to find one... there are wrecked P1's with aw55's everywhere.
you could literally buy a whole car, take its transmission for your old car and still cost less than 6,600.
 

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the car isnt even worth 6,600.
buy a used transmission, it really cant be that hard to find one... there are wrecked P1's with aw55's everywhere.
you could literally buy a whole car, take its transmission for your old car and still cost less than 6,600.
This lol. I bought my s40 with 70k on it for that much.
 

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So here is the bad news. The code was 'lockup function fault on transmission'. On inspection and driving from the dealer, the internal 2nd and 3rd clutches are gone.

Volvo service rep. tells me that Volvo is the only mfg. that does not sell all parts for their transmissions, so rebuilds are difficult as parts can be tough to get.

Their breakdown is:
$3658 for the new transmission
$2700 labor (15 hours)
$207 Fluids

Autozone has a 3 year warranty on a used transmission for $2600...but I'm only saving $1000 over the new.

Trying transmission shops next.
 

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So here is the bad news. The code was 'lockup function fault on transmission'. On inspection and driving from the dealer, the internal 2nd and 3rd clutches are gone.

Volvo service rep. tells me that Volvo is the only mfg. that does not sell all parts for their transmissions, so rebuilds are difficult as parts can be tough to get.

Their breakdown is:
$3658 for the new transmission
$2700 labor (15 hours)
$207 Fluids

Autozone has a 3 year warranty on a used transmission for $2600...but I'm only saving $1000 over the new.

Trying transmission shops next.
This is similar to an issue my girl had on get tracker. Ford wanted $400 for a new assembly when the pigtail was the reason that particular headlight didn't work. $5 later at Napa I got a new pigtail. Simple fix. I'm 100% it's more of a Volvo won't sell it to the consumer thing, and not manufacturing the individual part.
 

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Volvo Shop will never tell you about a rebuild. Nor will they do it (if they do, it's rare and for someone they know). You'll have to go independent. The parts can be had. These transmission are in toyota's, nissan's and GM makes. The clutches come in packs; which can be found and bought. They are model specific though by make.

Yes, Volvo uses some different parts, but they can be rebuilt. Just google around for info on AW55-50 or Aisin AF33.

Also, just so you know, I don't think Volvo will give you a new tranny. The part is listed in VIDA as EU, meaning it is an exchange/reman. They rebuild ones to resell: like yours will be (same with axles and engines from Volvo). I highly doubt you'll be getting a brand new transmission. Factory remanufactured and new are two different worlds. The fluid is also a ripoff, but Volvo will use Volvo fluid, which has a very high markup compared to the same Mobil product.

Good luck! It's definitely not worth going the dealer route... 10 years and all bets are off on other major components (engine, steering rack, cat conv). It would suck to throw 6K+ into something that is only one piece of the puzzle.
 

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Give the guys a call at Volvo Auto Wreckers in Sac - you can probably get a low mileage used tranny for like $500.
 

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Volvo Auto Dismantlers may have a trans for me. Still would need to go the dealer route for install, as none of the shops I've called would deal with it—and none of them have the computer hook ups to make it all live, either.

Thanks again for the advice! Still need to decide if $3500 is worth putting into this one.
 

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I bought a used transmission for my son's S40 I think I paid around 600.00, it came out of a car with 45K. A local shop installed it for 1,200.00. 3 yrs. later, still fine.
 

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Volvo Auto Dismantlers may have a trans for me. Still would need to go the dealer route for install, as none of the shops I've called would deal with it—and none of them have the computer hook ups to make it all live, either.

Thanks again for the advice! Still need to decide if $3500 is worth putting into this one.
Since you'll be in the sac area already getting the trans, there's at least two independent options - eurotech (indep volvo service and by far my preference) and Sacramento Volvo Specialists.
 

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I'm not really sure why you would need a dealer for the install - if it's the same trans (AW55) then every model would work. Just make sure it's a t5 vs. 2.4i trans, if that's your model. Otherwise, there's only 1 automatic trans in the P1 cars. And, I don't think a reprogramming would be necessary since it's a direct replacement. (to the independent volvo guys) I call B.S. on that one.
 

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Interesting. The independent shops I've spoken are all weary of Volvo transmission repairs, I'm guessing from their own experience. Even the $600 transmission from a salvage car winds up being $2700 in labor where I am (San Francisco Bay Area.) Also, they all mentioned other issues can escalate the bid once they get in there to inspect, depending on if there are metal shavings in the system.

Great car for me for 7 years, but I'm reminded how much I disliked the sport suspension option + 19 wheels. Too unforgiving on the hillside roads around here. Don't feel it's work $3500+/- to fix, and the idea of that *potentially* going to $5-7 is not an option I want to get into.

So it's up for sale, I'll post in the marketplace here as well. If you're in Marin, swing by and take a look!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/5303621106.html
 

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Interesting. The independent shops I've spoken are all weary of Volvo transmission repairs, I'm guessing from their own experience. Even the $600 transmission from a salvage car winds up being $2700 in labor where I am (San Francisco Bay Area.) Also, they all mentioned other issues can escalate the bid once they get in there to inspect, depending on if there are metal shavings in the system. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/5303621106.html
Sounds like you're getting the rope-a-dope treatment - metal shavings will only be found in the old transmission, not the new (or newly used) one. Installation + fluid flush is all that is required. Should be less than $2k OTD.

But goodluck selling, wish you the best. :beer:
 
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