[evilspoons]

I am looking to trade in my '04 S60 2.4i for something with a bit more 'go' (ok, a <i>lot</i> more <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">). I put my name on a dealer waiting list and they phoned me with an offer for a 2005 S60 R. I can handle the car financially, as long as there aren't any major maintenance things coming up that aren't covered by warranty.<p>The car is still owned by someone else; he wants to trade it in. I drove a technician's car from the dealer that is the same colour, same transmission, same everything, and I absolutely love it. This thing is a dream car for me. The only thing I'm not sure about are the stereo (premium audio is a huge plus for me) and the overall history of the car (owner claims no accidents, we'll see what a report says).<p>Car will have a 5 year/140k warranty (from in-service date, which I don't know, so I'm assuming Jan 2005) - I'll be covered for at least seven months. I've got them looking up the in-service date. I can buy 6 year / 160k or 7 year/ 160k (time being the limiting factor for me so 7/160 is actually useful over 6/160) for another $3500-ish. I will try to talk them into giving me this warranty for cheap as part of the deal.<p>When do major things go wrong on this car? Any recalls that I should check for compliance on? Should I make sure they update the car's software as part of the deal?<p>Thanks!<p>(Disclaimer: also posted on a couple other Volvo forums.)

 

[Chilled Man]

I would buy the warrenty and get the car. <p>If you dont buy the warrenty dont buy the car.

 

[crimnlmnded]

Re: (Chilled Man)

+1 on what chilled man said! That and 4C suspension!

 

[s140s]

also search the forum for buying R, s60r buyer, thinking about buying R, There is ton of stuff about it and most are exact question as urs

 

[lan]

Re: (crimnlmnded)

if you get the car get the warranty. good advice

 

[MagoonR]

Re: 2005 S60 R, 6 Mt, 66k km: What is likely to go wrong? Good buy? (evilspoons)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>evilspoons</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When do major things go wrong on this car? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Any time. Angle gear, wheel bearings, slave cylinder............all unpredictable and $$$$. Service history and mechanic inspection are a must with any used car; especially this one.

 

[tomedkaz]

clutch + slave cylinder = not covered under warranty

 

[jclough]

Re: 2005 S60 R, 6 Mt, 66k km: What is likely to go wrong? Good buy? (evilspoons)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>evilspoons</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am looking to trade in my '04 S60 2.4i for something with a bit more 'go' (ok, a <i>lot</i> more <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">). I put my name on a dealer waiting list and they phoned me with an offer for a 2005 S60 R. I can handle the car financially, as long as there aren't any major maintenance things coming up that aren't covered by warranty.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you purchasing this from the local Volvo dealer? I've had good experience with the local Volvo dealer since the new owners took over. Other than the last time they changed my oil and overfilled it 'cause the tech didn't notice it was a 'R' car which takes less oil than a regular S60.<p>What color combination is it? I'll keep my eyes open for you. Edmonton isn't that big...

 

[rogersampson]

Re: (tomedkaz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tomedkaz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">clutch + slave cylinder = not covered under warranty </TD></TR></TABLE><p>There is just no way I would accept being denied warranty, assuming the car is under warranty, for a failed slave cylinder. <p>The slave cylinder is not part of the clutch, it is part of the clutch actuation mechanism. It is not a wear component. There is no way user abuse can make a slave cylinder fail. Volvo has done the abuse on the customer with a poor design, and/or component specification.<p>Of course some of the wear components such as the disc become contaminated with hydraulic fluid when the slave fails, and you are enriched to a minor extent by getting a new clutch disc, and is not unreasonable for you to pay something for that while it is apart. (I have 125K miles on original clutch) Of course you wouldn't be replacing it before it's time if the slave had not failed.<p>There is a one person on the board, that has had their slave cylinder fail 3 different times under warranty, and to the best of my knowledge never given static about it being a warranty issue. <p>I would run this up through VCNA, or whatever it takes, because it sounds as if your dealer just does not understand, or they are not ethical. They owe you a refund, with interest, and an apology.

 

[evilspoons]

Re: 2005 S60 R, 6 Mt, 66k km: What is likely to go wrong? Good buy? (jclough)

Yeah jclough, I am looking to buy from Volvo of Edmonton - although I've found two cars in Calgary for less money with similar specs.<p>The car in Edmonton is magic blue with tan leather, the Calgary R is magic blue with blue leather, and there's a T5 in Calgary with a manual (which is now a very serious option for me) that is titanium grey with black interior.<p>I live in the NE and currently drive a silver '04 S60 2.4i, work in the east just north of the Whitemud (like 4 blocks from Sandy Lane).

 

[badams1897]

Re: (rogersampson)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rogersampson</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>There is just no way I would accept being denied warranty, assuming the car is under warranty, for a failed slave cylinder. <p>The slave cylinder is not part of the clutch, it is part of the clutch actuation mechanism. It is not a wear component. There is no way user abuse can make a slave cylinder fail. Volvo has done the abuse on the customer with a poor design, and/or component specification.<p>Of course some of the wear components such as the disc become contaminated with hydraulic fluid when the slave fails, and you are enriched to a minor extent by getting a new clutch disc, and is not unreasonable for you to pay something for that while it is apart. (I have 125K miles on original clutch) Of course you wouldn't be replacing it before it's time if the slave had not failed.<p>There is a one person on the board, that has had their slave cylinder fail 3 different times under warranty, and to the best of my knowledge never given static about it being a warranty issue. <p>I would run this up through VCNA, or whatever it takes, because it sounds as if your dealer just does not understand, or they are not ethical. They owe you a refund, with interest, and an apology.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>how do you know if your slave cylinder fails?

 

[ss60]

Re: 2005 S60 R, 6 Mt, 66k km: What is likely to go wrong? Good buy? (evilspoons)

The 'good buy' part depends a lot on the price they are offering. What are they asking for it?

 

[rogersampson]

Re: (badams1897)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>badams1897</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>how do you know if your slave cylinder fails? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Clutch pedal will go to the floor and stays there. You will see hydraulic (brake) fluid under the car coming from the bell housing area. <p>Car will not be drivable. Clutch will be engaged and you will not be able to disengage.

 

[phuz]

Re: (tomedkaz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tomedkaz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">clutch + slave cylinder = not covered under warranty </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Since when is slave cylinder not covered under warranty? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">