<b>2004 Pontiac Grand Prix</b><p><BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Pontiac on Thursday unveiled the ninth generation of its Grand Prix for the 2004 model year at the Texas State Fair in Dallas. Pricing has not been released. The automaker has eliminated the base model SE for 2004, and instead will offer a 200-hp V6-powered GT, and a 250-hp GTP and GTP with a competition group package. <p>The competition package includes 17-inch wheels, tuned suspension and Stabilitrak Plus, which helps keep the car stable in high-speed maneuvers and harsh conditions, and TAPshift (TAP stands for Touch Activated Power), which can switch the car from automatic transmission to manual with a Formula One-style paddle lever on the steering wheel. <p>Twin-styled dual exhaust outlets will be standard on all models, as well as larger 16-inch and 17-inch wheels and tires. The car is the same size as the model it replaces. Inside, the cockpit will include larger analog gauges, and radio and air conditioning controls are now flush with the dash.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><IMG SRC="http://66.216.98.93/images/gallery/6210_image.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://66.216.98.93/images/gallery/6211_image.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>-Drew
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Re: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix ([email protected])
Exterior - not bad, improvement over the exiting model but nothing revolutionary. <p>Interior - The steering wheel and dash is better, but the IP still has those big clumsy cartoon like buttons.<p>The car looks better, but GM cost decisions are very prevelant. The Accord may be boring to look at, but it is a conservative sedan that will last over time. Also, Honda can afford to be that way when they have so much else going for them. I don't think that the Japanese or VW are too concerned. Is this the best that comes from Product Czar Lutz.<p>Oh, and one last thing, something that everyone else forgets when a new model is launched - how will the structural integrity of the car hold up over time. Let's test this car versus an Accord in 2009.
Exterior - not bad, improvement over the exiting model but nothing revolutionary. <p>Interior - The steering wheel and dash is better, but the IP still has those big clumsy cartoon like buttons.<p>The car looks better, but GM cost decisions are very prevelant. The Accord may be boring to look at, but it is a conservative sedan that will last over time. Also, Honda can afford to be that way when they have so much else going for them. I don't think that the Japanese or VW are too concerned. Is this the best that comes from Product Czar Lutz.<p>Oh, and one last thing, something that everyone else forgets when a new model is launched - how will the structural integrity of the car hold up over time. Let's test this car versus an Accord in 2009.
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Re: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix (Ascari)
awesome exterior. I really really like it.<p>However the interior just sucks, disorganized, ugly, incoherent.<p>but man.. this car looks handsome
awesome exterior. I really really like it.<p>However the interior just sucks, disorganized, ugly, incoherent.<p>but man.. this car looks handsome
Re: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix ([email protected])
It looks a little better than the last model but I still think it looks gross inside and out. I just don't get Pontiac style....
It looks a little better than the last model but I still think it looks gross inside and out. I just don't get Pontiac style....
Re: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix ([email protected])
exterior looks pretty good for a pontiac...<p>the interior doesnt look the slightest bit organized!! boggles the mind who came up with it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">
exterior looks pretty good for a pontiac...<p>the interior doesnt look the slightest bit organized!! boggles the mind who came up with it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">
Re: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix ([email protected])
The exterior looks a little better than previous models IMO... but the interior looks like total crap! The radio face especially, looks like hell to me... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">
The exterior looks a little better than previous models IMO... but the interior looks like total crap! The radio face especially, looks like hell to me... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">
The good, the bad, and the ugly...
<B>The Good:</B><br>They got rid of that nasty, gaudy, ribbed, plastic side-cladding between the front & rear wheel wells. (Oh, wait, that was nixed the last time they freshened it, right? Ok, my mistake. Nothing good left to say. Ha ha.)<p><b>The Bad:</b><br>(Gee, where do I begin? Too many options!)<br>- The front bumper fascia looks droopy, heavy (like a wet diaper, in fact), and bulbous.<br>- <I>Orange</I> and <I>yellow</I> and <I>white</I>, OH MY! (And blue, and silver...) I see white labels on buttons, and yellow ones, and red and/or orange (ick) alphanumeric display windows, and what appear to be orange-backlit climate control displays. Sheesh. It looks like they couldn't figure out what color scheme to go with on the dash, so they decided to pay tribute to 'all things Disney'. Somebody must've suggested that "more" (color) is somehow "better". Or they're schizophrenic. Or both. Or perhaps they're trying to confuse the customer and distract them while they're out for a test drive, hoping to take their attention away from the ...<br>- Crappy dash layout, poor fit/quality where the eyebrow meets the dash (look just above the 2 o'clock position on the steering wheel), and the no-grain (or low-grain?) dash & center stack plastic material. That plastic makes the whole cockpit look like a child's-toy version of a "real" car. Except that most children's' toys these days are alarmingly like the adult versions, so that can't be the case.<br>- Are those steering wheel spokes REALLY brushed aluminum, or are they cheesy painted plastic? My G note is on the latter.<br>- The button graphics (as several of you already noted above) are ridiculously large and stupid-looking. Look at the gas pump and coolant temp icons! If you need for the icons to be that large, you either need better glasses or you shouldn't be driving!<p><b>And the Ugly:</b><br>Take everything listed up in "The Bad", and add to it...<br>The chiclet buttons, the incoherent layout, and those fog-lights the size of melons. Oh. And the whole interior. And the whole exterior. (Yup, I think that about covers it...) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>P.S. I'm not anti-GM or anything, I just think that in this day and age there is no excuse for poor execution. Or ugliness. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
[Modified by Lisa62, 5:37 PM 10-1-2002]
<B>The Good:</B><br>They got rid of that nasty, gaudy, ribbed, plastic side-cladding between the front & rear wheel wells. (Oh, wait, that was nixed the last time they freshened it, right? Ok, my mistake. Nothing good left to say. Ha ha.)<p><b>The Bad:</b><br>(Gee, where do I begin? Too many options!)<br>- The front bumper fascia looks droopy, heavy (like a wet diaper, in fact), and bulbous.<br>- <I>Orange</I> and <I>yellow</I> and <I>white</I>, OH MY! (And blue, and silver...) I see white labels on buttons, and yellow ones, and red and/or orange (ick) alphanumeric display windows, and what appear to be orange-backlit climate control displays. Sheesh. It looks like they couldn't figure out what color scheme to go with on the dash, so they decided to pay tribute to 'all things Disney'. Somebody must've suggested that "more" (color) is somehow "better". Or they're schizophrenic. Or both. Or perhaps they're trying to confuse the customer and distract them while they're out for a test drive, hoping to take their attention away from the ...<br>- Crappy dash layout, poor fit/quality where the eyebrow meets the dash (look just above the 2 o'clock position on the steering wheel), and the no-grain (or low-grain?) dash & center stack plastic material. That plastic makes the whole cockpit look like a child's-toy version of a "real" car. Except that most children's' toys these days are alarmingly like the adult versions, so that can't be the case.<br>- Are those steering wheel spokes REALLY brushed aluminum, or are they cheesy painted plastic? My G note is on the latter.<br>- The button graphics (as several of you already noted above) are ridiculously large and stupid-looking. Look at the gas pump and coolant temp icons! If you need for the icons to be that large, you either need better glasses or you shouldn't be driving!<p><b>And the Ugly:</b><br>Take everything listed up in "The Bad", and add to it...<br>The chiclet buttons, the incoherent layout, and those fog-lights the size of melons. Oh. And the whole interior. And the whole exterior. (Yup, I think that about covers it...) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>P.S. I'm not anti-GM or anything, I just think that in this day and age there is no excuse for poor execution. Or ugliness. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
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