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My dealer service center told me today that Volvo recommends changing the timing belt at 105,000 miles. They also said they'd be happy to do it, for about $700US (timing belt is inside the engine). Anyone ever have their timing belt go once thir mileage is over 100K?
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (jgreetis)

Isn't the maintenance interval 120K miles? Unless you drive particularly hard, the belt should be fine up to that and even beyond--although you should stick to the factory interval.<p>Of course, your belt could go before that, any part can fail before its maintenance interval. But Volvo and its oe supplier are saying 120K, that should be a conservative number and the reports of premature failure are few and far between around here and probably everywhere else, too.<p>You can remove the top cover and look at the belt for fraying, cracking or other signs of obvious wear?<p>Of course they would be happy to do it a year early...
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (MrTippy)

I wouldn't wait that long.<br>BTW $700 is obcene<br><B>This is an <U>hour and a half labor</U> in real time to do a T belt and tensioner</B><br>Buy the parts yourself on line and negotiate the labor, say 2 hours.<br>I pay (at $85 an hour) about $315 to have a T belt and tensioner installed.
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (jgreetis)

The timing belt interval is 105K on my 2000MY car. Don't know what year it went to 120K. $700 sounds like the price of the belt PLUS the other service work that is also part of the 105K service.
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (JRL)

I've read that the water pump should be changed at the same time as the timing belt and tensioner...anyone agree with this?
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (Jeffs3820)

If you're going to actually wait until 105 or 120K <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> yes, change it.<br>They're not much money and really no extra labor involved
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (jgreetis)

The timing belt interval was still 105k through 2004 (I just checked my service manual), so you are due for the replacement. While I'd fight for a lower price, the cost of this part failing makes me feel that replacing it now makes good actuarial sense (i.e. it's cheap insurance to prevent a multi-thousand dollar issue down the road). My advice: don't risk it (this is an interference engine) to save a few bucks.
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (VTT5)

Volvo timing belt intervals can be confusing. Interval depends on the engine type and MY.<p>For MY03 (owner's manual)<p>"For proper functioning of the vehicle and its emission control systems, the timing belt and belt tensioner must be replaced every 105,000 miles (168,000 km) or at 120,000 miles (193,000 km) for the 2.5T engine on AWD models. Engine damage will occur if the belt fails."<br><A HREF="http://new.volvocars.com/ownersdocs/2003/2003_V70/03v70_08b.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://new.volvocars.com/owner...b.htm</A><p><A HREF="http://new.volvocars.com/ownersdocs/2003/2003_maintenance_charts/2003_maintenance.html" TARGET="_blank">Full maintenance table-MY2003</A><p>I looked up the timing belt part numbers in VADIS for the following '03 engines, B5244S, B5234T3, B5244S6, Bb5244T3 and B5254T2, and they all use same parts, 274338 ('99-04, $60 list) and 274518 ('05-07, $192.49 list--comes with belt, tensioner & pulley?)<p>Looks like the interval is 105k for most turbo engines and 120K for NA's. Intervals on many turbo's were extended to 120K starting in '05 (with a new belt spec, supplier or whatever?).<p>Noteably: for the B5244S6 (SULEV or PZEV, VIN codes 39 & 64) "the timing belt and tensioner replacement interval for these vehicles only is 15 years or 150,000 miles / 240,000 kilometers." Apparently with the same belt as above. <p>Obviously, the longer interval for the NA engines reflects the lower output of the engine.<p>My personal experience with drive belts (car, tractor and implement) is that they rarely break out of the blue. You can see them wearing/deteriorating over time.<p>Racing, tracking or very hard driving habits would accelerate wear, as would custom tunes that take the belt closer to its load limits--in which case it might snap without obvious warning. That said, I suspect there is LOTS of overhead in the spec for these belts.<p>For typical passenger driving, a non-defective belt should easily see 120K miles and I would not be surprised if it went a lot further, however, that is your judgment call.<p>Any significant reduction in this is often fear mongering and or business promotion typical of behavior we have seen from the service providers.
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (MrTippy)

Pete excellent info and well stated, more confusing is the pricing...I see on FCP Groton, kits listed up to 385 bucks...it include the water pump, belt, tensioner, idle pulley, front crank seal, front and rear l/r cam seals....add 2 hours labor and your easily pushing 700 at the dealer. My question is how much and how far...do you just do belt, idler pulley, water pump and serpentine, or do the crank seals and cam seals get done as well?? JHW
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (2.4asr)

I posted info from Volvo, here is a post from another forum that gives me cause to think.<p><A HREF="http://volvoforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15168" TARGET="_blank">http://volvoforums.com/forum/s...15168</A><p>The writer doesn't say what the mileage was on the engine with the crashed valves.<p>The belts in his pictures are showing signs of wear, but are not faulty. If Volvo's factory maintenance schedule is so out of line I would expect to be regularly reading about failures here and elsewhere, but I can't remember the last time I saw something about crashed valves. I can't see Volvo/Ford exposing themselves to this kind of liability either.<p>Nonetheless, my v70 has 72k miles, I think I am going to pull the top timing belt cover in the near future and take a look.<p>I had a '91 accord that went 225k miles on three timing belts in my hands. I changed them out per the factory instructions (90K mi IIRC) and the original and first replacement each looked like they had a lot left in them. The tensioner at 180K was still clean and smooth, but I replaced it anyhow. This continues to perplex me: the Volvo is 13 years newer and a so-called premium car, but parts aren't any more reliable--often less so--and usually substantially more expensive.
 

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Re: 2003 v70 timing belt change at 105K miles? (MrTippy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MrTippy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a '91 accord that went 225k miles on three timing belts in my hands. I changed them out per the factory instructions (90K mi IIRC) and the original and first replacement each looked like they had a lot left in them. The tensioner at 180K was still clean and smooth, but I replaced it anyhow. This continues to perplex me: the Volvo is 13 years newer and a so-called premium car, but parts aren't any more reliable--often less so--and usually substantially more expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Belts are belts. Yes, Volvo could spec a belt that could go 200K miles, but I would not want to pay for it. Same goes for almost any other maintenance item, for every 10% gain in life you are probably looking at a 20-25% increment in cost.<p>Landru<br>2001 V70 T5M 209,700 miles (and new tire to boot....)
 
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