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Ok i am having a small problem with a set well a few sets or rim/tires and getting them to fit on my 2003 S60 AWD w/17" rims. I am having trouble with 3 new tires i have tried they rub the inside wheel well when i turn.This is with Toyo and Yokohama they are 235/45/17.I no that you can space the rims but this is where another problem has come in.I have gone threw 3 sets or rims and all have vibration issues and it looks like it is because of the hub not fitting right.Now you cant use a spacer and i HUB extension at the same time.Is there any one that has replaced the rims/tires and have either not had this problem or did and how was it fixed.Also this may not have anything to doo with this problem but there was a small swcrew that was removed frombehind Volvo stock rims that was stopping new rims from sitting flush to hub.This was removed has anyone had to have this screw removed and does it server and purpose?
 

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Re: 2003 S60 AWD Problem with rim/tire replacement (N1ne)

The screw held the rotor onto the wheel bearing assembly when the lugs were removed -- not an issue for it to stay off.<p>You want hubcentric spacers, as sold by Heico, Viva, etc. This will reduce vibration from your wheels not being perfectly centered and space you out enough to cut down on the rubbing. <p>If I read your comment "Now you cant use a spacer and i HUB extension at the same time" right, you tried non-hubcentric spacers, which likely caused your vibrations. <p>If your wheels have a different center bore, then you need rings to seat wheels with a bigger bore. Smaller bore, you're SOL.
 

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Re: 2003 S60 AWD Problem with rim/tire replacement (N1ne)

First of all, if you're using non Volvo (aftermarket) wheels for Christ's sake make sure you bought ones with hubcentirc holes, if not get a hubcentric ring.<br>(They screw can be removed.<p>As for your tire rub; this is par for the course with 235/45/17 if you bought a different tire than the OEM Pirelli which is a very narrow tire.<br>All tires are not the same and the ones you bought are probably up to 3/4" wider tread block (same size though).<p>You can do a couple of things, once you get your wheels straightened out and you KNOW that they have a correct offset (within 3 mm of the stock wheels), you can buy a pair of high quality 5mm spacers, that usually will cure the rubbing.<p>Your comments show that you have absolutely no idea what your doing so read what I said;<br>You MUST get your wheel situation straightened out first, the spacers will sure the rubbing.<br>(Saving some money by buying wrong wheels certainly does not help here)
 

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I second what JRL said, cutting corners and being cheap with wheels does not work.<p>Stick to OEM rims or proven aftermarket brands.
 

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I was not looking to save any $ on these i have been to 3 different tire places two larger stores and 1 local dealer and have had the same problem with all three.I get these are the rims/tires that they say fit 4-5 different ones and they have all said the same thing "We have used these on same model car and never had a problem"But i will be going back tomorrow morning and having them either remove rims/tires or like what was suggested use a hubcentric spacers.I went to the large tire store because you would thing this is what they do and i would think that im not the 1st person that has a S60 with 17"rims that have gone to them.But thx for the help and it will do as you said .
 

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You failed to mention what wheels these are
 

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The tires were TOYO Proxes 4 but now they are Yokohama Avid H4S 235/45/17 witch does have a smaller tread patten.That is why i choose those over other that they had.But if they can not get these rims right that will not matter.I dont not have the paper work in front of me but this is a picture of them on car.I had a limited choice of what i could use as This is my full time car and im not 18 and getting a set of chrome spinning rims is not what i was looking for.The stock rims that were on it were damaged by my wife over the winter with 2 small spins outs in the snow and both had server curb damage.<p><br><i>Modified by N1ne at 9:14 PM 7-23-2009</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by N1ne at 5:29 PM 7-24-2009</i>
 

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Listen<br>First you need to learn how to post a picture on the web.<br>You MUST reduce them to 800x600, that took about 5 minutes to download on a high speed connection. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I can see by looking at them the offset is all wrong, and probably not hubcentric.<br>You did NOT have a limited choice, there are at least 50 different wheels that fit that are for sale out there...at all different pricing, $175 to $600 per wheel<br><B>You need to buy different wheels and that's the ONLY way you will not rub.</B><br>Those wheels are no good for a Volvo and are all wrong. When you do, make sure they are recommended for an AWD Volvo.<br>You are stuck with these, find out what they are for and put them on Ebay<br>You could (still can if you kept the good wheels) have repaired your wheels or bought one (or two) used with a core exchange at:<p><A HREF="http://www.wheelcollision.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheelcollision.com</A>/<p>You need a 43-49mm offset, preferably <B>46-49</B>mm<br>YOU CANNOT MAKE THESE WORK<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JRL at 8:18 AM 7-24-2009</i>
 

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When i say limited choice i use this car everyday and it is the only one i have to get 2/from work so it was a matter of getting the car up and going in as little time as i could Friday-Monday is what i needed.I guess i should have gone to the internet 1st but as the big tire stores were able to give me a few choices for what they said would work i had no reason not to believe them.But i am now in a spot with them as i am locked in to what they have to get this right.This is who i bought them threw <A HREF="http://www.townfair.com/.I" TARGET="_blank">http://www.townfair.com/.I</A> am at this time pushing them to get my $ back but as its been more than 30days it is going to be a fight to get this done and they are sure that they can get me rim that will fit.Im not sure if you have time or if you could take a look at there site and tell me if there is something that will fit.
 

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<B>Bad link</B>, I cannot see what you bought<br>EDIT: I retyped their site and got it.<br>I don't know what you bought, but there are several wheel manufacurers they advertize that make wheels that work with Volvos<br>I pluged in an AWD S60 and all they show is a 178x7<br><B>You need a 17 x 7.5 with a <U>46 to 49mm offset</U></B><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JRL at 6:08 PM 7-25-2009</i>
 

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Ok i went back to store today and it seems that the rims i have came from a company called <br>tirerack.com my car is a 2003 Volvo S60 AWD 2.5T with 17" rims and the rims i have now are Sports Edtion F8 <A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=F8670401085BS&wheelMake=Sport+Edition&wheelModel=F8&wheelFinish=Bright+Silver+Paint&showRear=no&autoMake=Volvo&autoModel=S60+2.5T+AWD&autoYear=2003&autoModClar=&filterSize=17&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=Sport+Edition&filterNew=All&sort=Brand.If" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/wheels...nd.If</A> i could have you help me out with getting this problem fixed and if there are any rims there that you are sure are right could you point them out.These rims are on close out im not sure what i paid for them but i am sure it was more than that.
 

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<U><B><br>Offset: 40mm</B></U><br> <br>Backspacing: 5.82"<br> Bolt Pattern: 5-108<br>Rec. Tire Size: 235/45-17<br>Weight: 21.4lbs.<p>These are;<br>1: Too narrow for a 235/45/17 I'm surprised thay have that down.<br>It will <I>work</I> but is really too narrow a wheel<br>As I said you need a 7.5" width rim for 235s but;<br>2:<B> THAT OFFSET is no good.</B><br>I said about you need a<U> <B>46-49 </B>mm offset</U> with that size tire.<p>Tirerack should have supplied hubcentric rings, you need to check to see if they installed them in the hole opening before they mounted them on your car.<p>Bottom line, while the wheel will "fit" a Volvo hub, this wheels are totally wrong for <U>your car.</U><br>The OEM wheels have a <U>49mm offset.</U>A 6mm-7mm incorrect offset WILL cause your rub, it's quite tight in there.<br>These cars were never designed for that large a tire so everything must be <U>absolutely perfect </U>in terms of size and offset.<br>Several Volvo rims are 46-49mm offset and can be used.<p><B>Where are your other original wheels?</B> they all can't be bad.<p>This place sells used/refinshed wheels, you can match up your OEM wheels, they have almost all Volvo wheels, just search the site until you find their inventory.<br><A HREF="http://www.wheelcollision.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheelcollision.com</A>/<br>I've sued them for used wheels and for refinishing, they're very good<p><B>Feel free to give this place this post, they sold you the WRONG WHEELS</B><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JRL at 6:16 PM 7-25-2009</i>
 

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Ok i have heard back from Whellcollision and it looks like to fix 2 front are $200 each and the back are less.Like i said all the rims are in bad shape do to last winter and one tuff one on the car by my wife shes a very bad driver in the snow.The rims that i have to replace are $245 each.Now this is more that i was hoping but i am still working on getting my$ back from other dealer.They now have ordered buy the specs i gave them and told them these are a must is these. <br>ASA AR6 With Spoke Inserts<br>Offset: +48mm<br>Backspacing: 6.10"<br>Bolt Pattern: 5-108<br>Rec. Tire Size: 235/45-17<br>Weight: 23.6lbs.<br>Now i hoping these will fit if not i have allready contacted my CC company and spoke to them about the problem and just wanted to get things started just in case these do not fit AGAIN.<br>
 

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They should be fine as long as you have the rings<br><B> <br><U>17x7.5 </U></B> <br>Original Price:<br>Now 0% Off: $0 (each)<br>$179 $179 (each) <br>Price: <br>$0 (each) <br>See price in cart <B>Offset: +48mm</B><br> <br>Backspacing: 6.10"<br> Bolt Pattern: 5-108<br><B>Rec. Tire Size: 235/45-17</B><br>Weight: 23.6lbs.<p><br>Not the best looking wheel (IMO) for a Volvo but it's your car
 

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I say get yourself some <A HREF="http://jpowell.tripod.com/saab-wheels/2004-5/index.html" TARGET="_blank">SAAB rims</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>God, aren't they sexy? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://jpowell.tripod.com/saab-wheels/2004-5/saab-alloy_5-spoke-aero-7x17.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://jpowell.tripod.com/saab-wheels/2004-5/saab-alloy_5-spoke-twin-aero-7x17.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StarmanDXE</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say get yourself some <A HREF="http://jpowell.tripod.com/saab-wheels/2004-5/index.html" TARGET="_blank">SAAB rims</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://jpowell.tripod.com/saab-wheels/2004-5/saab-alloy_5-spoke-aero-7x17.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://jpowell.tripod.com/saab-wheels/2004-5/saab-alloy_5-spoke-twin-aero-7x17.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><br><B>God, aren't they sexy? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"></B><p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Your point being? They don't fit and they're not particlarly sexy
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Your point being? <b>They don't fit</b> and they're <b>not particlarly sexy</b></TD></TR></TABLE><p><IMG SRC="http://www.synthstuff.com/mt/archives/orly.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>I looked into it and was very close to putting some on my car. There are a few people running SAAB rims on Volvos. They've got the right center bore, I believe the offset is right, and the 5x110 is close enough to our 5x108 bolt pattern to fit without a hitch.<p>And they most definitely <i>are</i> sexy!
 

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