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First, let me say that I've been searching and reading posts on this topic for over dozens of hours over the last week so please do not flame me for asking something that may have been answered in the past.<p>Second, I have an 06 S60R with factory SatNav (RTI) system but no Sirius running on the HU-850.<p>I want to add an ipod and possibly add satellite radio (later) but want to control these through the existing HU. I would prefer not to have to run any cables from the front to the back of the car.<p>Based on my research it looks like the IMIV would be the easiest ipod controller to install as it will daisy chain to my RTI. I would probably just leave the ipod in the trunk and plan to hook it up via the MDC channel so I could get track title/artist info and control everything via the HU.<p>Next I did some reading on the factory Sirius module by pulling the Volvo OEM install instructions. I want to ensure that if I install the IMIV, i would still have the option to install factory Sirius later. I do not know if my car is "satellite ready" as I've read confusing thing about this--I looked in the rear compartment and do not see any extra unplugged cables or connectors save one tiny green connector with two wires (yellow and white). Based on the install instructions it looks like all I have to do is plug the Sirius into the available DIN on the back of the RTI and attach antenna and power...but the drawings are horrible and small so I'm not sure.<p>So here are my questions:<p>1) If I have factory RTI, am I automatically satellite radio prepped? It would seem crazy for Volvo to run cabling for the RTI and not for satellite.<br>2) In your opinion, is the IMIV a better/easier to install/use ipod controller than the USAspec or the OEM Volvo ipod adaptor given my set up and desired usage? <p>Thanks in advance for your help and opinions.
 

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Re: 06 S60 w/RTI best solution for ipod and future satellite (dobiegillis)

I have the same exact questions. I have an 05' S60R with RTI/NAV, so there is a MELBUS cable, but I don't know if the car is "satellite ready" since the MELBUS cable is utilized by the RTI. I want to install factory SIRIUS myself and savie a few bucks. I have also looked at all the relavant threads on SS, but can't determine what is necessary. Anyone? BTW, the links to Volvo for the factory sirius install instructions are no longer working, brings up the Volvo page, but theer is no information.<p>Also, I want to install IMIV later. I actually don't use an Ipod, I use an old Creative Zen, as I use Rhapsody subscription tracks. Will IMIV will work with the standard headphone jack, or should I be looking at MII (the other sensolutions adapter)? Would any additional harnesses be required, or would I be able to daisy chain to the RTI as stated in dobiegillis thread? Not trying to hijack the thread, but I thnk it's relevant...<p>Thanks! James
 

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I don't have the know how to comment on the Sirius, however you are able to install them alongside the iMIV, or MII. <p>Also, it wouldn't really be fair to comment on what I think is that best iPod adapter. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>As for standard headphone out (3.5mm) the iMIV will work as long as you purchase a 3.5mm to RCA cable. The MII would be a cheaper source for this however at the moment we are out of stock...
 

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Thanks for the info on the adapters!<p>Can any SS members tell me if having the factory RTI/Nav package means that I can buy the factory sirius kit for a pre wired car and not need to buy anything else for the installation, or would I need to purchase an additional harness? Thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Did you see this <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=42528&page=5" TARGET="_blank">post</A>?<p>I believe that since your car is an '06, and because you have RTI, that you are good to go for the oem SAT receiver. The RTI already has a front to rear MELBUS cable--which is the SAT ready package that is available in the absence of RTI.<p>MELBUS devices are daisy chained, the instructions show what to do depending on what you have in your vehicle; as far as this goes, treat the iMIV like a CD changer. The factory SAT package will plug into the RTI and the iMIV daisy chains with that. The order is important (i.e. which comes first), it's posted soemwhere in these forums. <p>You'll just need the appropriate melbus cable for each. One from Volvo, part # on the <A HREF="http://vccs.volvocars.se/accessories/cat/en-GB/P2X/audio/radio/VCC-251706.htm" TARGET="_blank">Volvo SAT</A> page, and the other from Sensolutions; they may even have a compatible cable for the SAT to RTI, too (needs a 90 deg DIN plug), and if so, it will be much less than Volvo.
 

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Thanks! There's some good info there that I had not seen....<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> James
 

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Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv?

I'll join this as well, as a new member with a new (to me) S60R with the HU-850 melbus-prepped system (not Sat/Nav). I am a novice, I have confirmed that the melbus is sitting out back (luckily), but I spied the orange connector, not connected to anything, coming from the rear bumper area. Is this an antenna connector?<br>Second issue - I really want to get Sirius installed, but was advised by my dealer that the dealer-installed Sat. unit wasn't work the cost and to go aftermarket (yes, I was surprised at this). Probably going to go the iMiv route since I want an aux-in as well (though not necessarily iPod compatibility), so would it make the most sense to just get an iMiv and daisy-chain in a Sirius-specific unit (Starmate or otherwise)? Believe me, I have read a LOT of forums to this point so I hope I am not asking that perhaps I missed somewhere else...
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (Outfitter)

Your dealer gave you an honest answer. The only reason to get the oe sat kit is if you HAVE to have HU control of the sat radio. If you don't mind having an aftermarket controller mounted somewhere then you should save a bundle and get at least as good if not a better sat radio. If you are of the upgrade the HU mentality, then you can just be sure to get a new HU with built-in sat radio.<p>I do not have sat radio, so maybe take some of this with a grain of salt, but if you are sat ready, that means the HU will work with the oe sat kit and you are pre-wired; you will still have to install an antenna, right?<p>Aftermarket sat radios are all analog and will use the aux-in feature of the iMIV, not the melbus side; hence, no need for daisy chaining. If you have no need for an ipod, Sensolutions has lower priced adapters that will give you just an aux-in option. I suggest considering the iMIV in case you change your mind; an ipod is handy and makes a cd-changer obsolete.<p>Can you post a picture of the orange connector that you are referring to?
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (MrTippy)

Yeah, been a while since posting pics - hopefully quality on this is good enough to tell...?<br><IMG SRC="http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9458/dsc00157e.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Outfitter at 12:52 PM 7-22-2009</i>
 

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Re: 06 S60 w/RTI best solution for ipod and future satellite (dobiegillis)

I have both iMIV for Ipod, and OEM Sirius. The good news is that you can add both entirely yourself -- no software download visit to the dealer.<p>The bad news is that the OEM Sirius kit is kind of pricey. But for the level of integration it gives you (no extra panels or displays), I think it's worth it. The OEM antenna for Sirius is not part of the factory pre-wire...the connectors you have identified are probably for other options. The OEM Sirius antenna is very large, and some might say gawdy...you can however replace it with a more attractive aftermarket one, the connectors at the end of the antenna are an older satellite industry standard, but adapters seem to be readily available.<p>Lastly your HU-850 radio does NOT have an MDC channel. This was eliminated in MY05. You will have to choose between having Sirius on the SAT channel (which is the only channel that displays name/track/title), or having your iPod on there and not having OEM Sirius at all. I have Sirius on SAT, and iPOD on 10CD changer via iMIV. I keep the iPOD in the center compartment, so I can easily see what's playing (when the car is safely stopped or parked away from traffic).<br>-------<br>05 V70 / HU-850 / OEM Subwoofer / OEM Bluetooth / iMIV / OEM RTI / OEM Sirius<br>
 

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Re: 06 S60 w/RTI best solution for ipod and future satellite (apl175)

OE sat radio installation instruction <A HREF="http://vccs.volvocars.se/accessories/ii/Details.aspx?uid=944d0156-e4b3-4335-a0fa-83407ba05f9e" TARGET="_blank">here</A>.<p>Apl is right, probably no software.<p>I can't tell what that connector is from your picture. It does not look like the trailer connector.
 

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Re: 06 S60 w/RTI best solution for ipod and future satellite (MrTippy)

Thanks for the replies. I am not looking to update the HU, that's for sure. While my priorities were to get the Sirius AND the aux input I lost from my last car going to this S60, I don't NEED to have the OE Sat. radio interface (with names/titles in the radio screen), so the iMIV looks to be the best option to give me the aux-in necessary for both my mp3 player (non-iPod) and aftermarket Siruis, though obviously I'd be looking at a few different screens in that scenario. The only thing that does concern me a bit is the pulling of all of the trim panels to get the aux cable back to the driver's area. I'm not the most gentle in removal of parts and I'm usually averse to removing already-nicely-installed parts… apl175 - What'd you pay for the OE Sirius, and how difficult really was the install? (I had downloaded the instructions already, but thanks Tippy!)<p>Funny that even a couple of other Volvo guys at work can't identify the orange connector either. Maybe if I trace it back I'll find that pot o' gold I've been looking for... <br>
 

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Re: 06 S60 w/RTI best solution for ipod and future satellite (Outfitter)

Can you get a better picture of that connector, unencumbered?
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (MrTippy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>OP</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The only thing that does concern me a bit is the pulling of all of the trim panels to get the aux cable back to the driver's area. I'm not the most gentle in removal of parts and I'm usually averse to removing already-nicely-installed parts…</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It isn't too bad. There are tutorials for removal of headunit and installation of auxiliary input modules floating around. Check this one out: <A HREF="http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2025012060038884452PUHTFU" TARGET="_blank">http://rides.webshots.com/phot...UHTFU</A><p>Also, if removing the side panels under the center console (pictured here: <A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2802075780038884452nSGbeA" TARGET="_blank">http://community.webshots.com/...SGbeA</A> ), make sure you move the front seats all the way back to access the plastic screw holding the panels down. Otherwise you'll be at an odd angle and might end up mashing the plastic screw badly because you can't fit a screwdriver in there too well.<p>I'm running an iPod with SiriusXM on the OEM headunit. However my satellite unit is an aftermarket cheapy that I grabbed for $30. Works great. I used the USA Spec PA-11 (with both iPod and aux-input), but seeing as you're looking for on screen text (pa-11 doesn't have it) and are willing to spend the money, the iMIV would be a better option. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Jexx at 9:13 AM 7-26-2009</i>
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (Jexx)

If the USA-Spec module does all that is necessary and is less that the iMIV< then I am all for it - believe me, I'm not all about spending money, I want my music as inexpensively as possible. Got any pics of your module set-up for reference?<p>Tippy - I'll try and get a better connector pic shortly...
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (Outfitter)

Admittedly I'm an audiophile, in fact, I spent in excess of 3k on my last sound system, including a 200A high output alternator complemented with 0 gauge wire throughout. But I cringed at the idea of spending $130+ on an aux-in adapter.<p>Found the USASpec PA-11 Vol on ebay for $100 shipped (even that was a bit pricey for my tastes). They also pop up on the classifieds of this board (from $75-100) though I'm not seeing any for sale right now. <p>Had it for 3+ months now and still no problems. <p>I have my PA11 module in the same place as mentioned in the tutorial--under the passenger's seat in that opening of space. It's a fantastic location for the unit. However, since we have the newer consoles, there is actually a hole already placed in the back of the center console, where I just threaded the RCA/headphone wire through, so I didn't have to do any drilling or shaving. You can see it here: <IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/illuminator321/DSC04471.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><br>Then I just hide my satellite unit in the cupholders under the sliding cover (I don't eat or drink in my car, if I were to, I would just use the cupholders in the fold out portion of the center console). : <IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/illuminator321/DSC04467.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>Then I have the iPod nano wedged between the sliding cover and the shifter surround: <IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/illuminator321/DSC04476.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Of course you could integrate yours more, I just didn't want to drill any holes etc. Sometimes I just throw my iPod on the passenger seat while it's hooked up. The iPod cable can also be threaded through the hole, but I didn't want it in the console. <p>The only disadvantage of this setup, which you can probably tell, is that you have those wires coming out of the front right of the console, but it doesn't bother me. <br>
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (Jexx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Jexx</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Admittedly I'm an audiophile, in fact, I spent in excess of 3k on my last sound system, including a 200A high output alternator complemented with 0 gauge wire throughout. But I cringed at the idea of spending $130+ on an aux-in adapter.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What's the reason for the 0 gauge wire?
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (MrTippy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MrTippy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>What's the reason for the 0 gauge wire?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It was part of the 'Big 3' upgrade: <A HREF="http://www.isyougeekedup.com/the-big-3-car-audio-wiring-upgrade" TARGET="_blank">http://www.isyougeekedup.com/t...grade</A>/<p>In a nutshell, the existing wiring was too thin to feed the high output alternator's power to the rest of the car, consequently the voltage level dropped significantly under heavy loads. <p>I had two enormous oldschool PPI amps in the back pulling 50-70amps a piece. I'm over that stage in my life however, and only care about sound quality now. As a result I haven't touched the actual components of my Volvo's audio system because the imaging is fantastic.
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (Jexx)

Those amps were dissipating 700-1000 watts each?<p>The rest of the car was drawing the same amount that it did before you added the amps. If the oe wiring was sufficient w/o the amps, it should still be with them--as long as the amps were wired directly to the HO alternator/battery. The rest of the car's load does not change with the new amps.<p>The alternator only puts out what load draws. Installing an HO alternator by itself wouldn't change anything. In the link above, I would think that if the lights are dimming, that the alternator is topped out.<p>I could see using thicker wiring for the amps, but not the rest of the car. And, for that matter just giving them dedicated lines ought to do it.
 

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Re: Unconnected orange connector coming from rear bumper, and Sirius input to iMiv? (MrTippy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MrTippy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those amps were dissipating 700-1000 watts each?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Yep, they were easily doing 700w a piece. I had to be careful with how I had my subs wired, I could have wired them to pull more from the amps, but the alt couldn't handle it. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MrTippy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The rest of the car was drawing the same amount that it did before you added the amps. If the oe wiring was sufficient w/o the amps, it should still be with them--<B>as long as the amps were wired directly to the HO alternator/battery</B>. The rest of the car's load does not change with the new amps.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> Since the amps were wired <i>in</i>directly to the alt, the corresponding wiring had to be upgraded. Amplifiers are typically grounded to the chassis because long runs of ground wire will cause noise issues, as well as it is extremely expensive to run such thick wire from the front to back of your car, and ultimately it is just more annoying to have to run more wire when it is unnecessary. <p>Let me break it down so it makes sense why I upgraded the wires I did and how they are related to the amplifiers being hooked up to the alternator:<p><B>Battery positive (+) to alternator</B> The main power wire coming from the alt to the batt (+), definitely has to be bigger, otherwise there is no benefit of putting in a HO alt, because the OEM wiring won't let enough amperage flow to the battery post where the amp is hooked up.<br><B>Engine block to chassis ground</B> The amps are grounded to the chassis of the car, which in turn is grounded to the engine. For example, an amp has 0 gauge (+) running all the way to the battery, and then if that same amp was grounded to the chassis of a car using 0 gauge wire , and the chassis to engine wire was 8 gauge, there would be a problem. Power and ground wires should always match, gauge-wise. <br><B>Battery ground (-) to chassis ground </B> Again, this is in the same vein as the above-mentioned wire, since the heavy gauge goes to the (+) battery terminal, it only makes sense that the (-) is matched. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MrTippy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The alternator only puts out what load draws. Installing an HO alternator by itself wouldn't change anything. In the link above, I would think that if the lights are dimming, that the alternator is topped out.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Installing a HO alt <i>does</i> change things if the wiring is upgraded. However, I do admit the poster of that above article was misguided, because it is completely unnecessary to do the 'Big 3' upgrade unless an alternator with a higher amperage output is installed. <p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Jexx at 9:19 AM 7-28-2009</i>
 
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