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Sticker under the hood says 5W-30 as you can see in the attached photo but dealer says they only carry 0W-20. Which oil is best? I have heard 0W-20 is lighter and will therefore flow better but will it provide adequate wear protection for the engine itself and turbos?

2019 XC90 T6 Polestar
 

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Yes sir, thank you. That's true but I just wanted to see if there was any other insight from the community as to why Volvo changed the viscosity to a thinner oil. There has to be technical or engineering reasons behind it. The service bulletin just says it was changed. They don't say why.
 
The answer is because Volvo made a decision to establish the lighter spec'd oil as recommended. There is no other public explanation to be found here.

Many of the SS's are simply tired of the subject of engine after the two most recent decades.
 
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Volvo probably found a problem that can occur at higher miles of use in extended testing. Once they identified the problem then they realized 0-20 would prevent it, at least for a longer period of time. So they made the switch in order to prevent/delay the problem for customers beyond the expected life of the vehicle.

And example that comes to mind is the early Ford Y blocks. They used an oiling system that worked perfect on paper. But once out in the real world folks would delay and skip oil changes. The non-detergent oil at the time would not clean up the gunk as well and eventually the oil passages the the furthest valves from the start point would get clogged on each bank. This was in the 1950s so the solution was to just buy another car or pinch the end of the oil line to create more pressure. But if Ford wanted a different real solution they might have developed a high detergent oil as a rebuilt motor today does not suffer these problems due to better oil.

Just a story there. I would guess either something where oil pressure is needed at start up where the engine is still cold or possibly a drain return issue where 30w ended up being too thick (like maybe thicker oil was suffering from more coking in the turbo with 30w). Because it was not at launch it was likely due to a discovered problem. Again, that's all speculation, but I think it's fairly rational. It would explain why even at the dealer level we can't say "oh this happens" because we never saw it. If you run 5w-30 for 300k miles you can let us know, but I'd just run the 0w-20 of the correct specification and know it's been determined to be the best for your motor.
 
Only thing I'd add is that the Volvo spec 0w20 has been recommended for "extreme driving conditions" since the inception of the Drive E.
 
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Volvo developed the VCC RBS0-2AE SAE 0W20 spec oil specifically for its 4-cyl engines. The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act says that American consumers have to be able to work on their cars themselves. Problem was, no American distributor would stock the VCC RBS0-2AE SAE 0W20 spec oil - not even for Volvo dealerships. So in the USA owners manual, Volvo had to give a spec that was available in the US. Then the first few years of 4-cyl engines had more problems in the US than the rest of the world where VCC RBS0-2AE SAE 0W20 spec oil was being used. That TJ was issued along with the piston rings being redesigned. Volvo now carries the VCC RBS0-2AE SAE 0W20 spec oil in their dealerships and uses it exclusively on all oil changes for 4-cyl engines. It is recommended that all 4-cyl Volvos now use that oil (but they were ALWAYS designed to use that oil).
 
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I spoke with a Volvo tech at the dealership about this today. He said there could be a number of reasons behind it, but most likely it's because environmental/cafe standards for better fuel economy. With advances in synthetic oil technology, they're able to formulate lighter oils to provide the same wear protection as thicker oils while achieving better MPG. Also, lighter oils provide better protection against low speed pre ignition (premature combustion) in smaller turbocharged and supercharged engines.
 
If Volvo's decision to recommend 0w20 was primarly for fuel economy reasons, who's to be certain it's actually protecting any better/worse or equal to 5w30?
After a while, you have to consider the law of diminishing returns when making this decision.
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I spoke with a Volvo tech at the dealership about this today. He said there could be a number of reasons behind it, but most likely it's because environmental/cafe standards for better fuel economy. With advances in synthetic oil technology, they're able to formulate lighter oils to provide the same wear protection as thicker oils while achieving better MPG. Also, lighter oils provide better protection against low speed pre ignition (premature combustion) in smaller turbocharged and supercharged engines.
That's the first I've heard of "lighter" oils providing such protection. Interesting.
 
I found a video that relates to the topic at hand. Draw your own conclusions.

 
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