My wife just received the registration renewal form for her plates/tags. Ohio adds $100 for an EV fee, thinking we aren't going to be paying gas tax. We're saving 1 or 2 mpg!! Can this be challenged? It's stupid. 
Extra plate registration renewal fee in Ohio for B6
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My wife just received the registration renewal form for her plates/tags. Ohio adds $100 for an EV fee, thinking we aren't going to be paying gas tax. We're saving 1 or 2 mpg!! Can this be challenged? It's stupid.
That's absurd. Ohio here too. They got me for $200/year to drive a plug-in hybrid. I think it's ridiculous... I'm still buying the liquid go go juice here like everyone else... Just not quite as much. Since the registration tax isn't tied in any way to my usage I find it unfair as I don't drive all that much.
But you still use the roads and tear them up as much as ICE vehicles. So by your logic if you have an EV you should pay nothing to use the roads and bridges and nothing to repair them. Sounds fair to me. 😂🤣
Not my point. I pay the same amount as a full EV owner for a vehicle that I'm still putting gas into. The state is just doing this wrong. It should be $0 for a B6, $100 for a PHEV, and $200 for a full blown EV. Doesn't that seem more fair?
😂 Ok, we both drive the same amount of miles on the road. I pay tax on all my miles. You pay tax on half the amount of gas (but drive the same amount of miles).
Because you want to pay $0.00 for your B6 how about if I get $100.00 credit because I already payed twice the amount of tax for the same amount of miles.
"THAT'S NOT FAIR"! you say 🤣🤣🤣
How about;
ICE - $100.00 credit
B6 - $200.00
PHEV - $400.00
EV - $800.00
You do realize the B6 isn't an EV at all right? It's 1 mpg more efficient. So we should be taxed an extra $100 per year per registered vehicle and not complain about this tax?
My argument was never about dodging road taxes. It's that the tax increase is all sorts of messed up in many ways.
I'm also annoyed that it is per vehicle... Why not per driver? What if I like collecting cars? Now I have to pay that tax per vehicle per year just to own something with an extra battery in it?
This complaint shows the stupidity of mild hybrid. Or hybrid at all.
Think of all the electronics and weight dragged around for minimal carbon fuel savings.
The hybrid’s extra weight damages the roads more and eats tires for breakfast. And you still need to fuel it.
As the F-150 and Silverado will soon be EV, charge locations will be everywhere. It is mostly a production ramp issue. EV will soon be mainstream in the US.
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Think of all the electronics and weight dragged around for minimal carbon fuel savings.
The hybrid’s extra weight damages the roads more and eats tires for breakfast. And you still need to fuel it.
As the F-150 and Silverado will soon be EV, charge locations will be everywhere. It is mostly a production ramp issue. EV will soon be mainstream in the US.
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Let's keep the discussion thread to 1 point/argument, please.
@GRUENDIG I don't know what credits you're talking about. This is a discussion about fees/taxes.
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I'm sure you and everyone here know the B6 is technically a (mild) hybrid and what that means. It just seems that the state doesn't know, or doesn't understand various levels of hybridization and electric drive, or doesn't care to differentiate. Or, are they differentiating since you said you're paying $200/year??
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Clearly, a mild hybrid car that gets 1 mpg better than one that is not should not be charged $100 extra - that's just silly and just shows a lack of understanding at the state level.
Unfortunately, if you don't drive your car very much at all and still have to pay a registration fee and the hybrid adder, that's just the cost of doing business. There's really no practical way for the state to adjust a registration fee based on the number of miles you drive.
I was getting tired of paying registration fees on one of my cars that's never driven so I was able to get it qualified as an historic vehicle - special situation granted but problem solved - no more annual registration.
Unfortunately, if you don't drive your car very much at all and still have to pay a registration fee and the hybrid adder, that's just the cost of doing business. There's really no practical way for the state to adjust a registration fee based on the number of miles you drive.
I was getting tired of paying registration fees on one of my cars that's never driven so I was able to get it qualified as an historic vehicle - special situation granted but problem solved - no more annual registration.
I also have a historic vehicle in CT. but, if you want to drive it on the roads you have to pay for registration. For us it's every three years.
I you don't register it, you don't drive on the roads. Historic or not.
Yes Ohio is differentiating.
$100/year for a standard hybrid.
$200/year for a plug-in hybrid or EV.
I have a PHEV so I get the $200/year end of the stick.
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Ohio here too, this is not a lack of understanding the classification of vehicles, it is more geared towards the idea that you are saving money at the pump by paying less on local/state gas tax, so the state intervenes and creates a fee tied to registration renewal. At least you don't live in WA state were the plan is/was a pay per mile tax for ICE and flat tax for PEV/EV. The idea in WA state is to have all calls by 2025 being sold fully EV.
I doubt you will get anywhere trying challenging this but you can contact your state reps and council men and women.
I have one question for you, and it's not a dig or an attack, I just want you to think about this.
Did you really think the state would let you out of a tax of fee just because bought a PEV or EV? What good are laws/regulations if they cannot be rewritten.
I doubt you will get anywhere trying challenging this but you can contact your state reps and council men and women.
I have one question for you, and it's not a dig or an attack, I just want you to think about this.
Did you really think the state would let you out of a tax of fee just because bought a PEV or EV? What good are laws/regulations if they cannot be rewritten.
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I still have a hard time understanding what the point is of only 7-8 counties still doing E checks, either the whole state tests or not at all, to me it's like saying well Lake county contributes more to pollution then say Ashtabula County because they have a higher population density.
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But in the example above, the difference is 1 mpg which costs $100 extra to register. The state isn't losing out on a lot of gas taxes on a vehicle that gets 1 mpg better. OP is still buying a lot of gas!
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I think that's the whole point, population density, though I have a hard time believing that Franklin or Hamilton County aren't as densely populated as we are in NEO.
I think we all understand this. I've done the math. The tax just isn't comparable to what we're used to paying compared to the portion of the gas price that goes to the state. It's more like double in my case. Then you need to factor in that I'm still buying gas as on top of the new registration tax because of course the PHEV range is only getting you so far.
I've already voiced my concern to the governor... Not that they'll care I suspect.
Hard for me to recommend a PHEV in my state to my friends and family without bringing this up. Might as well just go wait and go full EV once the charging situation gets solved.
Just a question, does OH give any state credit for purchasing a hybrid or PHEV or EV?
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