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So I have some questions...

#1 - The CPO Warranty provides 5 years and unlimited mileage as I understand... are there things this warranty doesn't cover that could be costly?

#2 - The warranty is upgradeable to 10 years (I think)... do you have idea of the cost of this?

(I've seen Steingold Volvo mentioned here... would the best course of action be to get a quote from the dealer and then compare that to Steingold?)

#3 - Once I agree to buy the car what type of packages/upsells should I expect?

Any help is appreciated!

I'm hoping to be the owner of a XC60 in the next 30 days =)
 
1. CPO warranty doesn't cover as much as factory warranty but is the best choice we can have. Wear and tear stuff is not covered. Power train is the most expensive part and should be covered. Not sure about air suspension though. I have not read the warranty document.

2. It is around $3k. You can see the price on vip.steingold.com for different year/miles term. There is coupon to get hundreds off. Dealer usually would not beat that price.

Coupon code in here:

3. I don't know what dealer would upsell on CPO car, other then warranty and finance.
 
Get in contact with whoever you are interested in purchasing the warranty from and ask them for the "exclusion list".....a list of the items that are not covered by the CPO/extended warranty. This is much easier than trying to discover what it does cover. Honestly, the Volvo warranty is the best in the business. You'll not Volvo has been awarded best CPO programs in the US now many years in a row.
 
1. CPO warranty doesn't cover as much as factory warranty but is the best choice we can have. Wear and tear stuff is not covered. Power train is the most expensive part and should be covered. Not sure about air suspension though. I have not read the warranty document.

2. It is around $3k. You can see the price on vip.steingold.com for different year/miles term. There is coupon to get hundreds off. Dealer usually would not beat that price.

Coupon code in here:

3. I don't know what dealer would upsell on CPO car, other then warranty and finance.
Can you clarify why the factory warranty is better (what does it include that the CPO doesn't)? TIA.
 
Can you clarify why the factory warranty is better (what does it include that the CPO doesn't)? TIA.
New car factory warranty is bumper-to-bumper that covers almost everything including assembling issues, rattling, early brake squealing etc, especially in the first year. CPO probably is not so comprehensive, and has an exclusion list.

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New car factory warranty is bumper-to-bumper that covers almost everything including assembling issues, rattling, early brake squealing etc, especially in the first year. CPO probably is not so comprehensive, and has an exclusion list.

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I'd hope assembly issues and rattling would be covered under CPO.
 
What??? That's crazy. So assembly issues aren't covered? What's the express verbiage on the contract that excludes this? Thanks.

Platinum exclusions:
Brake linings, brake drums and rotors, disc brake pads, standard manual transmission clutch friction disc, pressure plate, pilot bearing, throw-out bearing and arm, air bags, solar powered devices, hinges, glass, lenses, sealed beams, body parts and/or panels, weather stripping, trim, moldings, door handles, lock cylinders, tires, wheels, all batteries except hybrid/EV/ hydrogen high voltage batteries as listed under silver, light bulbs, upholstery, paint, bright metal, freeze plugs, filters, heater and radiator hoses, exhaust system, catalytic converter, shock absorbers, constant velocity joint boots, steering and suspension joint boots, work such as front-end alignment or wheel balancing (except when required in conjunction with a mechanical breakdown), safety restraint systems, audio/security
or other systems not factory installed, cellular phones, radar detectors, appliances, or vinyl and convertible tops.
 
tell me if I'm wrong but any extention of a CPO warranty will apply AFTER the original warranty has expired, no?
Here in Canada the original warranty expire after 4 years or 80 000km so any assembly deffects or others similar would be covered by the original warranty.
 
I'd hope assembly issues and rattling would be covered under CPO.
Noise issues, like squeaks, are covered under the new car warranty for 12 mo/12,000 miles and treated as an adjustment. Adjustments are not covered after 12/12,000 period, so squeaks and rattles are not covered by the CPO....however that's not any different than the new car warranty really. This is basically the way all manufacturers warranty noises (Lexus is an exception), so it's not really any surprise or deficiency of the CPO compared to the industry in general. However, a broken part inside something that rattles around and create noise....that type of noise is covered. An attentive service advisor and a long-standing, valued customer is often able to work around these types of warranty claims with a good will adjustment or such if it's really bad, another reason to have a good relationship with your service department.
 
I'm genuinely not sure how that's possible, unless you just don't care about following the manufacturer maintenance schedule, are okay providing a blank check each visit, and never question anything.
That's sad you feel that way. I worked for many years at the store that provides my service. The service writers are good friends, salesman was my roommate many years ago, I helped hire the person that is now the General Manager of the store. It's a great family-owned Volvo store that takes great pride in caring for customers. My service experience is exceptional every time, and I have zero worries about my car not being maintained properly at a fair price. I've spent years of my life in the service and parts department, I'm familiar with what is good service. I made many good friends servicing people's cars over the years.....like hundreds. When customers treat the store fairly, they get treated fairly in return. That's called building a good relationship. That's how you get loaner cars, discounts, free advice, free details, after-hours service.......they value me being there. If you don't feel that way towards your service department, then that's a real shame. People just make out dealerships to be horrible places....that's such a joke. If you worked at a good one (like me) you would understand just how important good service is, not trying to figure out how to rip off the next guy that walks through the door.
 
People just make out dealerships to be horrible places....that's such a joke. If you worked at a good one (like me) you would understand just how important good service is, not trying to figure out how to rip off the next guy that walks through the door.
Do you not recognize that your experience is in the slim minority? Most people hate dealerships because the average dealership is a breeding ground for scoundrels. Their mantra is get as much money, as often as they can. Being lied to is far too common. Paying for services that don't get done (or are not done properly) is par for the course.

I live in a major metro area. Unfortunately, there are plenty of customers and only a couple Volvo dealers (and we didn't get the 2nd one until last year). The bar is extremely low, and they've learned they don't have to do much to get customers to stumble through their doors. When it was only one dealer, getting a service appointment required approximately six weeks notice. Now with two dealers you can get in within a few days if you don't need a loaner. A loaner may require a week or so - although I've learned to pass on those, for various reasons.

There are some good techs out there (as far as knowledge goes) but most techs are somewhat burned out, have grown to hate customers, and (thanks to their pay structure) they focus on getting cars out of their bay quickly, rather than being thorough and detail-oriented.

I've actually considered trying Porsche, next. I know it's not indicative of all techs, but I've seen some YouTube videos put out by a Porsche tech and I've been impressed with how much care he takes with his customer's cars. Maybe he works at one of those exceptional dealers that rewards him for taking the time? I'll have to research my local Porsche dealer more to confirm. The only other dealer I've heard that comes close is Lexus. I just wish they made a vehicle I wanted to drive.
 
Do you not recognize that your experience is in the slim minority?
Yeah, that's not true. Sounds like you are the one in the minority. Why do you think so many people are on the 10th car of brand X at the same dealership? Maybe you live in a crummy place, I haven't a clue and couldn't change it if I did. But your assessment of dealerships is way off the mark, and your comments really are disingenuous is perpetuating the myth that upsets you so.

You think just because you go to Porsche your service will be better? I managed the parts department at a Lexus store for years, and let me tell you....some Lexus stores are terrible. The Porsche store in my market had such terrible service they literally ended the franchise agreement, and the brand is complete removed from my market area. The quality of the store and the people that own it sets the tone, not the brand on the sign. There are MANY exceptional stores around the country.

I look forward to visiting my dealership every time for service. I recently left the Audi brand after switching from Volvo to drive a TT and then an R8. Every person in that store was a total stranger when I got my first car, and now I have the General Manager's personal cell number. I've made so many friends there, and it was a great experience. You don't have to be roommates of the managers dog sitter's brothers friend that is a technician to get good service. A lot of it has to do with a good attitude when you show up to the store and show some faith in their work they are about to do. I think some people have a terrible experience because they just assume it will be terrible. And trust me, no one likes to give good service to that crabby, complaining customer that always shows up in a bad mood. I hope you reconsider the way you could build a solid relationship with a store that would give you better service. Go out of market if need be if you place such a high priority on exceptional service. Plenty of stores provide it.
 
Yeah, that's not true.
Oh well since YOU said so. :roll eyes:

1. I'm not going to ignore my own experiences because someone else thinks I'm wrong.
2. You're said you're adding me to your ignore list, so why do you keep responding to me?
3. It's not hard to search the Internet and see that a LOT of people have terrible experiences with dealers.
4. Even YOU admitted that dealers have a generally-awful reputation.

Sounds like you are the one in the minority.
Yea, that's not how math works. See #3 and #4, above.

Why do you think so many people are on the 10th car of brand X at the same dealership?
A combination of people not having a better choice available to them, in their area, and I admit my standards are higher than the average person. I'm on my sixth Volvo. I like the car. People can like the car and not like the dealer, ya know?

Maybe you live in a crummy place, I haven't a clue and couldn't change it if I did. But your assessment of dealerships is way off the mark, and your comments really are disingenuous is perpetuating the myth that upsets you so.
Evidence... where?

You think just because you go to Porsche your service will be better? I managed the parts department at a Lexus store for years, and let me tell you....some Lexus stores are terrible. The Porsche store in my market had such terrible service they literally ended the franchise agreement, and the brand is complete removed from my market area. The quality of the store and the people that own it sets the tone, not the brand on the sign. There are MANY exceptional stores around the country.
You're right that some dealers are better than others - even within a single brand. I agree with that. The fact Porsche terminated the franchise agreement with your local store tells me that Porsche corporate cares about their brand and has the balls to make the hard call to protect it.

My experience with Volvo corporate is that they're limp-dicked and are unwilling to push their dealers to be better.

I look forward to visiting my dealership every time for service.
You said you worked there, right? I mean, if you worked there and they don't take care of you, then you've got bigger problems. But your experience is certainly not typical for most customers.

A lot of it has to do with a good attitude when you show up to the store and show some faith in their work they are about to do. I think some people have a terrible experience because they just assume it will be terrible. And trust me, no one likes to give good service to that crabby, complaining customer that always shows up in a bad mood. I hope you reconsider the way you could build a solid relationship with a store that would give you better service. Go out of market if need be if you place such a high priority on exceptional service. Plenty of stores provide it.
I've even had other people drop my car off to completely remove "me" from the equation. I still have caught dealers charging for services that I could prove were not performed. I still have dealers saying "cannot reproduce issue".

But you keep trying to say the problem is "me". Seems on-brand. Can you actually add me to your ignore list, now?
 
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