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Hello everyone. Recently got a 2013 Volvo s60 T5. Discovered this forum and I am very happy I found it. One quick quest for everyone. I replaced my low beams HID but I am looking to replace my high beams does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you.

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Hey, do you plan on replacing them with LEDs? If so, you're going to need a resistor or your car will throw a warning (mine is a '17 but it should be similar). I didn't install the resistor on mine yet but it doesn't affect the light's ability to work. Was pretty quick and easy to replace and the LEDs are significantly brighter than the stock plus they match the DRLs and headlights better.
 
Hello everyone. Recently got a 2013 Volvo s60 T5. Discovered this forum and I am very happy I found it. One quick quest for everyone. I replaced my low beams HID but I am looking to replace my high beams does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you.

Tony l
If you are going to get LED's I recommend speaking to Diode Dynamics to see if they offer any bulbs that fit our cars. You will have to email them cause they don't list our cars on their website, but they should have the reference numbers.
 
Yes, you'll need to figure out which can fit, because the main issue is the retention mechanism for the extra high beam bulb snaps around the rear of the electrical connections (at least on the HID Valeo headlamp model). This makes it difficult to fit many aftermarket LED bulbs with heatsinks.

Not a big fan of rebased retrofit bulbs for H platforms. They tend to cause more problems than they solve in reflector based headlamps. I know you've already done it, but if you're looking for a good alternative with correct placement of optics and spread, the H9 bulb can fit into the H11 socket with a quick minute snip job to shorten one of the locking tabs. The H9 will output 2150 lm vs. the 1350 lm of the H11, all at a negligible power draw and still retain long life.
 
That H9 to H11 bulb conversion is quite easy to do indeed. Just make sure what bulb type you have by physically looking at it...
Thought that my car had H9 High beam to discover that they were H7 even if the owner manual was stating H9...
Got a 2011 mind you..
 
That H9 to H11 bulb conversion is quite easy to do indeed. Just make sure what bulb type you have by physically looking at it...
Thought that my car had H9 High beam to discover that they were H7 even if the owner manual was stating H9...
Got a 2011 mind you..
Yes, easy indeed and quite the difference. I ran H9s on my WRX in the low beam (as a replacement for the TRS H11 rebased HID kit I ran for a hot minute) until did a proper retrofit HID setup (using OE projectors out of an STi that swapped directly in place of the halogen projectors).

The halogen headlamps in the S60 use H11 for the low beam. I was offering "take it or leave it" advice for getting rid of the rebased HID bulbs for the low beam reflectors and using a better halogen instead. (y)

(And H9 bulbs are used for the highs in the halogen lamp, so in essence it would be a 2 H9 setup, with the reflector low bulb being masked and the high reflector not)
 
What is a masked bulb? Does the masking keep you from blinding other drivers with your low beams?
In practice, yes. Of course this is assuming that the emission source (your light) is in the correct position. If you look at the headlamp, you'll see a shield covering the low beam bulb area (and none on the high beam reflector).

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That shielded area is what provides the ability for the cutoff to be generated from the headlamp. It restricts light from emitting from the areas that you don't want it thrown (up into the area above the car and into opposing driver's eyes) and only onto the reflector to be reflected into the prescribed pattern for either EU or USDM lamps.

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Viewed from the front by an opposing driver, the reflector will look illuminated like this. Of course this is the reflected image, so the light will make a pattern opposite of this when reflected.

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Cars that employ (or employed as it is not as common anymore) HID in reflector based housings had bulbs with the shields coated on the bulb directly. This is not as effective as using a projector with a cutoff shield, so it is mostly not used anymore in favor of projector HID optics.

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When you start messing with the emission source, in either the placement of it, or how it emits light (say arc (HID) or point source (LED)) it will change how well the reflector is able to reflect the lamp pattern, so your light output might change for the worse, or put light in the wrong places on the reflector. This is why a lot of people like myself caution against retrofitting other lamp sources in reflectors.
 
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I am really confused ours is a 2013 volvo s60 T5 with Hid low beams . It has one h9 high beam on the passenger side and a H7 on the drivers side headlight? Also it has the active bending lights.
 
Yes, you could add HID as a option, but that is a not highly purchased option, so the way you made it sound like when you said the above made me think that you threw a rebased HID kit into the housing. As you have HID housings, you have H7 "extra" high beam bulbs (they're called extra because the HID is bixenon and flips the shield away for high beam use, so the halogen high beam is not really necessary, just "extra").
 
I am really confused ours is a 2013 volvo s60 T5 with Hid low beams . It has one h9 high beam on the passenger side and a H7 on the drivers side headlight? Also it has the active bending lights.
There used to be places that sell H9 bulbs that have been modified to fit in an H7 housing. This could potentially cause issues as the H9 is a 65 watt bulb while the H7 is 55 watts and occasionally higher wattage bulbs will cause housings or connectors to melt due to the higher heat and current draw. This seems relatively unlikely when going from 55 watt to 65 watt (I usually see it when people throw in "off road" 85 watt or higher bulbs), but it's a possibility. The modified H9 bulbs also lack the coated tip that an H7 has, which will result in additional glare for oncoming drivers. This is, however, something of a moot point with high beams as the driver should be switching back to low beam for oncoming drivers anyway.

On the whole, replacing the stock H7 bulbs with modified H9 bulbs for only the high beam portion is likely a reasonable swap with minimal potential negative effects, but I believe that the modified H9 bulbs are more difficult to find these days as people have moved on to trying to sell LEDs.

If you have the HID lights (which are combination low and high beams), the auxiliary light should be an H7 bulb. But previous owners will often just jam the wrong bulb in. For example, on my old S70 the rear turn signal requires a PY21w bulb, which is not common in the US. The pins on the base are 150 degrees offset instead of 180 degrees like the more common 1156 (the idea being that the unique base would prevent people from putting clear bulbs in a socket that required a yellow turn signal bulb). You would not believe how often I saw those cars with clear rear turn signal bulbs because an owner had forced an 1156 bulb into the PY21w socket. My guess is that, since it's only one side, a previous owner of your car had a high beam go out and looked up the high beam bulb for the non-HID lights by mistake and then forced the wrong bulb into the socket.

Example of the different turn signal bulb bases:
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There used to be places that sell H9 bulbs that have been modified to fit in an H7 housing. This could potentially cause issues as the H9 is a 65 watt bulb while the H7 is 55 watts and occasionally higher wattage bulbs will cause housings or connectors to melt due to the higher heat and current draw. This seems relatively unlikely when going from 55 watt to 65 watt (I usually see it when people throw in "off road" 85 watt or higher bulbs), but it's a possibility. The modified H9 bulbs also lack the coated tip that an H7 has, which will result in additional glare for oncoming drivers. This is, however, something of a moot point with high beams as the driver should be switching back to low beam for oncoming drivers anyway.

On the whole, replacing the stock H7 bulbs with modified H9 bulbs for only the high beam portion is likely a reasonable swap with minimal potential negative effects, but I believe that the modified H9 bulbs are more difficult to find these days as people have moved on to trying to sell LEDs.

If you have the HID lights (which are combination low and high beams), the auxiliary light should be an H7 bulb. But previous owners will often just jam the wrong bulb in. For example, on my old S70 the rear turn signal requires a PY21w bulb, which is not common in the US. The pins on the base are 150 degrees offset instead of 180 degrees like the more common 1156 (the idea being that the unique base would prevent people from putting clear bulbs in a socket that required a yellow turn signal bulb). You would not believe how often I saw those cars with clear rear turn signal bulbs because an owner had forced an 1156 bulb into the PY21w socket. My guess is that, since it's only one side, a previous owner of your car had a high beam go out and looked up the high beam bulb for the non-HID lights by mistake and then forced the wrong bulb into the socket.

Example of the different turn signal bulb bases:
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The connector for the H7 is the correct one it is totally different from the H9 style.
 
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I called volvo its supposed to be an H7 in both driver and passenger sides. One side has a H9 connector the other side has a h7 connector. Its obviously an H7 connector one one side and a H9 connector on the other side. Its cold right now so I dont feeel like taking it apart.
 
I called Volvo it's supposed to be an H7 in both driver and passenger sides. One side has a H9 connector the other side has a h7 connector. It's obviously an H7 connector one one side and a H9 connector on the other side. It's cold right now so I don't feel like taking it apart.
That is weird. I wonder if one side got the wrong housing installed at some point? When things warm up check the part number for the housing on the side with the H9 connector.
 
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That is weird. I wonder if one side got the wrong housing installed at some point? When things warm up check the part number for the housing on the side with the H9 connector.
OKay not to beat a dead horse it warmed up so I could look at it. Passenger side headlight Is a Valeo 31383063-Rh with the H9 for high beam connector. Drivers side is Valeo 31383072-LH with the H7 conector. Both says made in france.
 
Ok... so you have a Euro HID headlamp it seems.

Take a look at the manual differences.

The U.S. manual. Halogen headlamp high beam is H9, HID headlamp high beam is H7.

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The U.K. manual., HID headlamp high beam is H9.

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And like I said, the Euro headlamp should have no orange reflector in the corner. The reflector is a FMVSS requirement (U.S.).
 
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Nope no orange reflector so it is European on passenger side not correcting that for ~700 dollars to get the right assembly. Mystery solved. The pain in the ass of it is that now I need two different types of high beam bulbs and they only seel them in pairs.
 
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