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Alright! Add one more confirmation that, yes, you can use a chinese dice to program a key!

I just used mine to program two keys I purchased on amazon and to delete the alarm.

As a first time Vida web user I have to say, they make it just about as confusing and un-straight forward as they can. But I managed to figure it out. Still have 2 1/2 days on my 3 day subscription. May have to figure out if there is any other software I should be downloading.

Maybe download their full pdf library while I've got access to it.
Def. I had to update all the software on every module in the car when I got to it.
 
On a similar note, I have two fobs that came with my 2011 XC90, one works fine, the other, all the buttons work except door unlock and door lock. Any guesses whether reprogramming this would help or is it even doable? There was no battery in it when I took delivery. The new battery is good.
 
2nd the "if it ain't broke."

As the thread has turned towards the critical aspect of battery voltage during reprogramming, here's my 2¢...

Thanks to several mandated ECU updates on the brand I work on daily (Brand X), I have gained even more experience in this aspect! By the way, nationally, Brand X is having a problem with bricked ECUs due mostly to poor reprogramming technique.

The charging station we are commanded to use by Brand X is a multi-thousand dollar monster with built-in battery diagnostics, low output "ripple" and fine control over voltage. It performs a battery test before committing to "Power Supply" mode. If a car with a bad battery is presented, we use a temporary donor battery for reprogramming.

If you intend to replicate this on the cheap:

Typically, the power supply mode used for reprogramming requires an initial current of 20-40 amps to maintain 13.6 volts, quickly dropping to around 8 -15A for a vehicle with the Key ON, headlights and all accessories OFF, and in some cases and as specified, certain systems like the cooling fans or anti-lock brakes unplugged.

The first step : Get the battery tested, even if it is a Dealership-supplied battery less than a week old. BTW, the expensive dealership battery usually has the highest quality for a given car.... auto manufacturers HATE the poor reputation the car receives because of a poor quality battery, so this is something they don't skimp on.

The second step: Make sure that the battery is fully charged and is not cold or excessively hot. Cold batteries drop power quickly, so the car should be at room temperature preferably overnight and on a trickle charger.

The third step: Obtain a battery charger that can deliver 10-15A on a continuous basis. This will initially be too low, but should avoid excessive voltage or ripple. Also, it's best to have a voltmeter on hand. The high-quality battery mentioned above will absorb most ripple and voltage fluctuations. This is where the el-cheapo battery will brick your ecu!

The fourth step: Turn off all accessories, particularly the climate control system and Daytime Running Lights. If Daytime running lights can not be turned off, additional battery charger power must be supplied to maintain voltage at around 13v. If the reprogramming instructions advise disconnecting systems like cooling fans, do so.

The fifth step: Connect the battery charger, Turn the Ignition ON with engine not running , connect up your DICE, start up VIDA. After the several minutes this will take, check the battery voltage. VIDA conveniently displays this on the screen before reprogramming begins. Adjust the charger to obtain 13 - 14.5 volts.

Begin your reprogramming routine as described in my earlier post. Above all DON'T PANIC! The car may appear to "go dead" and VIDA may appear to freeze. This is normal... do NOT unplug any cables, do NOT use CRTL+ALT+DEL, and do NOT click on anything trying to find out what is wrong.
It is most important that no other programs are running on the computer, that its own battery does not die and that Windows Update does not start.
The reprogramming will usually succeed even if the battery voltage drops to 12V or slightly lower, but the chances of success is best at around 13V. Voltage climbing above 15V should immediately be reduced.

After a seeming eternity, VIDA will inform you that the reprogramming process is complete or has failed. If the car has appeared to have "Gone dead" it will now spring back to life suddenly.

Having Completed, clear any fault codes, re-assemble the car and Happy Motoring.

Having Failed.... Well, that can get very tricky. Possibly a second attempt can succeed, possibly an expensive tow and a gigantically more expensive extended visit at a Volvo dealership will be needed.

But that is the risk of software updates! As someone posted regarding updates, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it...."

Good Luck and Welcome to my World....
2nd the "if it ain't broke."

:bow:

Heed the warnings above, and make sure you know what you are getting yourself into.

I have the Volvo recommended power supply... Have a legit DICE... and bought the 3-day VIDA subscription on a machine way beyond minimum specifications. I programmed new keys to my 2013 Platinum and made some simple programming changes to the DRL's, etc. With this, I had the confidence to perform a few software updates on my '04. Long story short, I experienced the download failure, expensive tow and gigantically more expensive, extended visit to the Volvo mechanic. CEM is shot.

Thats the bad news.

After talking to the mechanic, he stated that for an unknown period of time, my car had been taking in water to the CEM. Apparently there is an upgrade to the cowling that prevents water from entering the CEM, but this was unknown to me... I never knew this was happening, so I didn't search for available information about this. There were no weird damp smells or fogging issues ever revealed themselves. According to the shop, the problem would have eventually surfaced, but I probably sped it up by starting the CAN total upgrade.

Alright. Now I've got some confidence back... not totally my fault, right? Who checks the CEM (or any ECU) for water prior to connecting the DiCE? Not to mention, I've flawlessly used this unit with the knock-off VIDA for the last 9 years.

The good news:

Insurance is covering the repair because of "water/flood damage" - less the $500 deductible. Plan on about $1800+/- if you end up in my situation and don't carry full coverage.

So not considering my 04 debacle; here is the cost of my diy key programming, using Genuine Volvo parts and VIDA expenses:

Key Blank - $32.90 (31253386)
Key Blank - $32.90 (30753417) - no fob key
Key Blank cutting - $50ea = $100
Remote - $131.07
3-Day VIDA subscription - $74.60
Ignition Key application - $34.18
Remote Key application - $53.17

$458.82

The dealer wanted $800 for just the key + fob.
 
Xcandy, Always good to hear VIDA success story. I have use Vida for about 10 years. A couple months ago I did a 10 car marathon of keys, fobs, DRL delete, add Japan DIM, Add degree C to auto climate control, Fog lights on with high beam, etc. This was all one 3 day subscription. Volvo corp still got paid but the total cost in software was just over U$500 but this would have been 10 times this at the dealer. All were happy.
 
2nd the "if it ain't broke."

:bow:

Heed the warnings above, and make sure you know what you are getting yourself into.

I have the Volvo recommended power supply... Have a legit DICE... and bought the 3-day VIDA subscription on a machine way beyond minimum specifications. I programmed new keys to my 2013 Platinum and made some simple programming changes to the DRL's, etc. With this, I had the confidence to perform a few software updates on my '04. Long story short, I experienced the download failure, expensive tow and gigantically more expensive, extended visit to the Volvo mechanic. CEM is shot.

Thats the bad news.
Uh what? All you have to do when your car enters "Tow Mode" where everything is dead is disconnect the battery from the cables and reconnect it. I had both download failed AND another update was "Package doesn't match car specifics" errors on two separate downloads and disconnecting the battery worked every time to get it out of tow-mode.

Additionally, I wrote Volvo and asked for a refund on the Package doesn't match car specifics one and they refunded the cost of the software update.

Sorry your CEM took a ****e because of water, you're right we really shouldn't have to check that sort of thing....
 
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