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I’ve decided that I’m going to do my own oil changes. Is there any advantage to using the Volvo spec’d 0W20 over the A5/B5 spec 5W30 that the manual says is acceptable for the US? Trying to decide if it’s worth the extra effort ordering the Volvo spec 0W20 or just getting an A5/B5 5W30 at Walmart.

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I've decided that I'm going to do my own oil changes. Is there any advantage to using the Volvo spec'd 0W20 over the A5/B5 spec 5W30 that the manual says is acceptable for the US? Trying to decide if it's worth the extra effort ordering the Volvo spec 0W20 or just getting an A5/B5 5W30 at Walmart.

Thanks!
I would say for you, living in Texas? There is no advantage. The 5W to 0W is for very cold, freezing climates. Also the thinner 20 weight oil could be worse due to your hot climate in regards to oil film strength and sheering of the oil (bad) so I would just run the 5W30. No advantage for you to go to the thinner oil.
 
I would say for you, living in Texas? There is no advantage. The 5W to 0W is for very cold, freezing climates. Also the thinner 20 weight oil could be worse due to your hot climate in regards to oil film strength and sheering of the oil (bad) so I would just run the 5W30. No advantage for you to go to the thinner oil.
In the 15-16s Volvo recommends 0w20 due to the oil consumption issue that may develop. But I don't believe this applies to vehicles outside that window.
 
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Apparently in Europe 0w-20 is called for vs here where in the past 5w-30 was good. My Volvo Dealer just finished my 2nd year service and the paperwork said that they used 3w-30. I asked the service advisor about that. She checked and indicated that they actually used 0w-20. So it must have auto filled the paperwork. Around Santa Barbara hitting below 40 degrees is a rare event. I am happy either way as the quality is good either way. Lower viscosity with all other things being equal would suggest better flow characteristics. Tolerances could be very tight on this particular engine. Also I imagine that the oil we add also helps to lubricate the turbo. Not sure about the supercharger. The Acura NSX new version 2017 and later has a V6 that is turbo charged and puts out 500hp. It has a dry stump oil system and calls for 0w-40 which represents a wide swing. It was built by Cosworth and costs $90k to replace. So I will use the appropriate oil. An oil change costs $500
 
In the 15-16s Volvo recommends 0w20 due to the oil consumption issue that may develop. But I don't believe this applies to vehicles outside that window.
I'm a Volvo dealer and I have never heard a recommendation of 0w20 for the 2015-16 cars due to oil consumption. Perhaps after engine replacement if ever needed.

We (the dealer) were instructed to use 0w20 weight for the 2019+ cars and that was due to the gas mileage the 2019+ is rated.

In Europe, 0w30 or 0w20 is what is recommend for these cars and 0w20 for North America only because 0w30 is hard for Castrol North America to come by. So the "fix" for lack of supply was to use the 0w20 solely. 5w30, 0w30, 0w20, it's all fine.

Liquimoly (Euro oil manufacture) makes an official Volvo certified oil for the SPA cars in 0w30. They call it "Spec V" and is the only oil in the world (or at that time we're the first) to get Volvo's Official certification. I use this in my XC90 in 0w30.

As a side note, I run 0w40 in my modified S60 P3 (400hp) for the protection characteristics of that weight and to help combat the added stress my S60 creates due to the higher power level and 0w30 in my 2018 XC90. Most higher end sports cars use 0w40 like the GTR, M3/4, AMG for this very reason.

My personal experience with 0w20 is that A) it burns and shear too quickly for a turbo application and B) Volvo recommends 0w30- 0w40 Weights in Europe anyway because it's readily available and those weights are less volatile to fatigue from oil samples I've had taken from my past cars after track use.

At the end of the day, just do what the manual says and then there's zero chance of any negative fallout with your car and warranty if the needs arises. ?
 
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The manual is weird. It says “ Extreme engine operation Volvo oil VCC RBS0-2AE/SAE 0W20 is recommended for extreme driving conditions.” The problem is it never defines what is extreme? Then before that it says “Full synthetic engine oil meeting the minimum ACEA A5/B5 must be used. Lower quality oils may not offer the same fuel economy, engine performance, or engine protection.” “Incorrect viscosity oil can shorten engine life under normal use. SAE 5W-30 will provide good fuel economy and engine protection.”

I remember reading somewhere that the 2.0L engines ship from Sweden with the 0W20 oil. Then the US service departments change that over to Castrol Edge Professional 5W30 at the first oil change. I’ve found a “oil change kit” with 6 liters of the Liqui Moly Tech V 0W20, an OEM oil filter, and a crush washer for a decent price. I’m just not sure if there would be a benefit to running the VCC RBS0-2AE spec oil or just a A5/B5 5W30 oil. I am planning on changing it out around 7,000 miles instead of the 10,000. I just have a hard time running oil that long in a twin-charged engine.
 
From Volvo:

All model year 2019 and 2020 vehicles for the U.S. and Canadian markets are delivered from the factory with Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil.
Any services or repairs on model year 2019 and 2020 vehicles requiring the replacement of engine oil must be performed using only Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil.
Volvo will not pay any oil maintenance claims that are performed without using Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil.

All model year vehicles (2015-) with a VEP(4Cylinder) engine that require engine replacement or engine rebuild must use Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil. It is required to notify the customer of this change for future maintenance services.

It is acceptable to use Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil on all model year VEP 4 cylinder 2.0L engines.

The vehicle’s Owner’s Manual currently reflects the global recommendation for oil viscosity.
The U.S. and Canadian markets will follow the extreme driving conditions recommendation.

As noted in the vehicles owner’s manual.
Extreme driving conditions:
Volvo’s VCC RBS0-2AE/SAE 0W20 oil is recommended for extreme conditions
 
Volvo should provide all 2019 and 2020 oil changes for free because it is almost impossible to get Castrol Professional in the consumer space.
 
I'm a Volvo dealer and I have never heard a recommendation of 0w20 for the 2015-16 cars due to oil consumption.

We (the dealer) were instructed to use 0w20 weight for the 2020+ cars and that was due to the gas mileage the 2020 is rated.

In Europe, 0w30 is what is recommend for these cars and 0w20 for North America only because 0w30 is hard for Castrol North America to come by. So the "fix" for lack of supply was to use the 0w20 instead.

Liquimoly (Euro oil manufacture) makes an official Volvo certified oil for the SPA cars in 0w30. They call it "Spec V" and is the only oil in the world to get Volvo's Official certification. I use this in my XC90.

As a side note, I run 0w40 in my modified S60 P3 (400hp) for the protection characteristics of that weight and to help combat the added stress my S60 creates due to the higher power level and 0w30 in my 2018 XC90. Most higher end sports cars use 0w40 like the GTR, M3/4, AMG for this very reason.

My personal experience with 0w20 is that A) it burns and shear too quickly for a turbo application and B) Volvo recommends 0w30- 0w40 Weights in Europe anyway because it's readily available and those weights are less volatile to fatigue from oil samples I've had taken from my past cars after track use.

At the end of the day, just do what the manual says and then there's zero chance of any negative fallout with your car and warranty if the needs arises. ?
See Tech's reply. My dealer used 0w20 on my latest oil change per my request. The recommendation is in force for those whose cars have required piston rings / new engine. However, it is acceptable to use in all vehicles that have not displayed these problems. Knock on wood, I have had no issues, but would prefer to keep my vehicle problem free. Thus, I requested switching oil at 60K from 5w30 to 0w20.
 
From Volvo:

All model year 2019 and 2020 vehicles for the U.S. and Canadian markets are delivered from the factory with Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil.
Any services or repairs on model year 2019 and 2020 vehicles requiring the replacement of engine oil must be performed using only Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil.
Volvo will not pay any oil maintenance claims that are performed without using Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil.

All model year vehicles (2015-) with a VEP(4Cylinder) engine that require engine replacement or engine rebuild must use Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil. It is required to notify the customer of this change for future maintenance services.

It is acceptable to use Castrol Edge Professional V 0W-20 Synthetic oil on all model year VEP 4 cylinder 2.0L engines.

The vehicle's Owner's Manual currently reflects the global recommendation for oil viscosity.
The U.S. and Canadian markets will follow the extreme driving conditions recommendation.

As noted in the vehicles owner's manual.
Extreme driving conditions:
Volvo's VCC RBS0-2AE/SAE 0W20 oil is recommended for extreme conditions
Thanks for posting that for EdVQ37 benefit.
 
And if you go get Castrol edge oil changes done elsewhere, or done yourself, volvo is still not going to honor any sort of oil warranty claims. Really surprised they havent been sued to provide free changes. BMW has to through the entire warranty. Volvo just does the first 3 which doesn't cover up to the 50k mi.

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I think I’m going to try the Liqui-Moly Special Tech V 0W20 that meets the Volvo VCC RBS0-2AE spec. I can get 6 liters, an OEM oil filter and crush washer shipped to my door for under $57.
 
In Europe, 0w30 is what is recommend for these cars and 0w20 for North America only because 0w30 is hard for Castrol North America to come by. So the "fix" for lack of supply was to use the 0w20 instead.
In Belgium, only 0W20 one oil is specified in the manual for the XC90: 0W20.
I believe this is so for the entire EU.
 
I thought the oil that is Volvo VCC RBS0-2AE is made by:
Castrol
Motul
Liqui-moly
Ravenol
To name a few. Not just liqui moly exclusive. And as far as I know the approved viscosity was 0w20 for all the above oils.

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Perhaps. At one time it was just Lquimoly. May be more now.

Approved oil weights are 0w20, 0w30, 0w40 and 5w30. All of which are highlighted in the manuals depending which version you have.
 
In Europe, 0w30 is what is recommend for these cars and 0w20 for North America only because 0w30 is hard for Castrol North America to come by. So the "fix" for lack of supply was to use the 0w20 instead.
In Belgium, only 0W20 one oil is specified in the manual for the XC90: 0W20.
I believe this is so for the entire EU.
I see. Perhaps it depends on country. My manuals have many "approved" weights advertised. I think it might be a climate/region specific thing.
 
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