Brake rotors and pads : EBC vs StopTech

Strong Man · Feb 5, 2015

Hi everyone,

I've started to think about next upgrade of rotors and pads (305 mm front and 286 mm real) for competition season 2015 (autocross and track-days). Right now I run my car on Brembo OEM rotoros + Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads which is very good include that I did 3-4 track days - no problem , but I feel that I was very close in heat limit.

I've already found two major competitors : EBC and StopTech

EBC® - USR Series Sport Slotted Rotors http://www.carid.com/2007-volvo-s60-brakes/ebc-usr-series-slotted-brake-rotors-4258600.html + EBC® - Yellowstuff 4000 "R" Series Full Race Brake Pads http://www.carid.com/2007-volvo-s60-brakes/ebc-yellowstuff-full-race-brake-pads-4234406.html

vs StopTech Sport Slotted Brake Rotor http://www.vivaperformance.com/stoptech-sport-slotted-front-brake-rotor-305mm-s60-v70-s80/ + StopTech Street Performance Brake Pad http://www.vivaperformance.com/stoptech-street-performance-front-brake-pads-s60-v70-s80/

so...what do you think guys ?! your ideas/advices ?

10PassionRed · Feb 5, 2015

I LOVED my EBC's on my G35. But I dont have S60R experience with either. Thats all I can add. I did SS lines and Hawk HP+ pads and I would recommend that setup to anyone. MUCH firmer than stock.

Note this is all from the G35...

mau5pad · Feb 5, 2015

Those EBC looks interesting I like !!! I use StopTech and i love them!!

Strong Man · Feb 5, 2015

mau5pad said:
Those EBC looks interesting I like !!! I use StopTech and i love them!!

I loved your answer

)) LOL

Dead line : looks like EBC has more performance

10PassionRed · Feb 5, 2015

I had the UPR's. I was mistaken. I am not a drilled/slotted believer. Blanks are where it's at for street driven cars.

Let the flames ensue.

Fishey · Feb 5, 2015

On the street, The blanks are the way to go IMHO. However, I liked the look of slotted rotors regardless.

Strong Man · Feb 6, 2015

more ideas/recommendations ?!

EricTheRed · Feb 6, 2015

Centric carbon blanks. Blanks used to make stop tech rotors

hxgaser · Feb 6, 2015

I wouldn't go with the full race pad for street use. They are designed to work at higher operating temperature. A true race pads will work like s**t for the street use. With that said, I do not know anything about the Yellow Stuff. It may not be full race pads, but you do the research.

I currently run the Stoptech pads with blank rotors. I like them okay. I do NOT track my car. My next set will be going BACK to Hawk HPS.

Strong Man · Feb 6, 2015

EricTheRed said:
Centric carbon blanks. Blanks used to make stop tech rotors

What do you mean in "blank"?

Bojan · Feb 6, 2015

Strong Man said:
more ideas/recommendations ?!

I'd recommend Ferodo DS2500 pads (after having many others on SS recommend them to me for street and track use). I have them on OEM rotors (with Ti shims for track days) and they are incredible.

EricTheRed · Feb 6, 2015

Strong Man said:
What do you mean in "blank"?

They are a blank rotor aka not drilled or slotted

Warpedcow · Feb 6, 2015

Strong Man said:
Hi everyone,

I've started to think about next upgrade of rotors and pads (305 mm front and 286 mm real) for competition season 2015 (autocross and track-days). Right now I run my car on Brembo OEM rotoros + Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads which is very good include that I did 3-4 track days - no problem , but I feel that I was very close in heat limit.

Ceramic pads are meant for "low dust". They don't handle abuse well at all, far worse than OEM pads, and farther worse still from a proper track pad like Porterfield R4S or Ferodo DS2500. EBC makes some good proper track pads as well. StopTech "street performance" is NOT a track pad, and is probably worse than OEM pads. Hawk HPS and HP+ are also worse than Volvo pads for taking track day abuse.

Proper race pads may not work well on the street, really depends on the aggressiveness and whether or not they still bite well cold. I was pleasantly surprised to find that Ferodo DS2500 pads do just fine at 0F temperatures in MN. That's probably the exception not the rule.

Strong Man · Feb 6, 2015

oooo...that sounds much better ...I know about Ferodo DS2500 (they're the ultimate best choice for track days) and I have been thinking about to take them, but if I'm going with EBC rotors I'd like to test EBC rotors with EBC pads like these http://www.carid.com/2007-volvo-s60-brakes/ebc-yellowstuff-full-race-brake-pads-4234406.html. If I feel good enough I stay with them, if not - I swap to Ferodo DS2500.

MvI_S60R · Mar 6, 2015

Warpedcow said:
Ceramic pads are meant for "low dust". They don't handle abuse well at all, far worse than OEM pads, and farther worse still from a proper track pad like Porterfield R4S or Ferodo DS2500. EBC makes some good proper track pads as well. StopTech "street performance" is NOT a track pad, and is probably worse than OEM pads. Hawk HPS and HP+ are also worse than Volvo pads for taking track day abuse.

Proper race pads may not work well on the street, really depends on the aggressiveness and whether or not they still bite well cold. I was pleasantly surprised to find that Ferodo DS2500 pads do just fine at 0F temperatures in MN. That's probably the exception not the rule.

Which EBC pads? Yellowstuff? I'm leaning between Porterfield and them Yellowstuff's simply because EBC is cheaper.

FastWgn · Mar 6, 2015

Stay away from Stoptech

Stoptech pads are not that great - they have a tendency to deposit unevenly and then it's really hard to remove, leading to vibration. The Stoptech rotors are just fine on the other hand.

As others have stated - don't use track pads for the street. I recommend Centric semi or full metallic - no dust, good grip. But no abuse or they will misbehave.

Strong Man · Mar 6, 2015

MvI_S60R said:
Which EBC pads? Yellowstuff?

Yes , but I've already started to think about Carbotech pads instead of EBC with EBC USR Series Sport Slotted Rotors

MvI_S60R · Mar 6, 2015

Strong Man said:
Yes , but I've already started to think about Carbotech pads instead of EBC with EBC USR Series Sport Slotted Rotors

Ive contacted them and they say they shouldnt be used on the street because they will wear the rotor too much and squeek crazily. Idk if true, or if anyone has them.

Edit: I think you can run XP8 on the street comfortably. Xp10 seems as though they are too noisy to run on the street. Though you can buy a perfect pad like Porterfields that everyone likes for the same price

Loki · Mar 6, 2015

I have slotted EBC rotors with RED pads and they do alright but I had brake squeal the first few thousand miles that wouldnt go away, I also did two bed in's and it didnt fix it. EBC was responding to my emails then just stopped out of no where and left me high and dry. But I like the rotors. They arent much different from stock.

I would say get the rotors and buy better pads.

Strong Man · Mar 8, 2015

Loki said:
I would say get the rotors and buy better pads.

that what I'm going to do , but haven't decided yet about pads..

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