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Sure enough XC70 has biggest cargo space behind second row seat, but by how much is bigger than V60 and XC60 and at same time is V60 has same space as XC60 or smaller/bigger?
Volvo doesn't show the important numbers are behind second row seats, just show a full cargo capacity. It's useless numbers since I have passengers when we travel.

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Don't forget that with the V60 the space saver spare tyre (if you have one) is tied down on top of the luggage area floor - thereby taking up valuable luggage space. Both the XC60 and XC70 have their (standard) space saver spare located below the luggage area floor. For current model V60s I believe there is now an option for the spare to be located below the luggage area floor although this involves raising the entire luggage area floor which further eats into what ever space is available.

The Volvo International site lists the volume of the cargo area (in litres) for the various models. http://www.volvocars.com/intl/Pages/default.aspx

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If those passengers have feet, only the XC70 is going to be comfy, IMO. Now, if the front seat folks have their seats all the way up, there is a chance. I'm only 5' 11" and I drive with the seat all the way back in the C70 and did in the XC60. The rear seat passengers' feet will be nestled UNDER the front seat, knees touching the seatback or darned close. Our XC70, previous Gen, had a bit of room for the rear seat folks as well as the extended cargo deck afforded by the extra 7 or so inches of overall length. The XC60 was as small as I can comfortably manage when carrying my mountain bike or hybrid inside...tire rubbing the seatback...just barely fitting lengthwise.

Doesn't mean the V60 or XC60 aren't capable...if I didn't do the bike hauling, there would be plenty of room in a C30 for us...but NO people in the back(our Scottie is a people, but she's small). I agree the numbers are hard to put in real terms of people and 'stuff' capacity...Really? VOLUME? Do a lot of people haul VOLUME? Best to get out the tape and measure for yourself. I think it's easy to ELIMINATE certain models because the numbers are simply too small, but volume/capacity is best put in terms of what YOU are actually hauling.

I do miss the days of the capacity of our '04 V70 and later '07 XC70, but the XC60 and V60 can sure make a tight garage seem spacious. ;)
 
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Strange apparently, XC70 has most cu ft with 21 cu ft, xc90 19 cu ft, v60 15 cu ft, xc60 17.5 cu ft
Surprising I thought XC 90 is bigger .
The '72 wagon in my sig line was a shoebox with wheels! All sorts of space in the back of that box! No tapered roofline, glass all around...odd for a college age tennis instructor; but I could get almost all my belongings in it!

The height of the 90 and the XC60 would go some toward making passengers a bit more comfy; but for most of us, those upper cubic feet don't get filled very often. The V60 looked pretty narrow along the cargo area; but I didn't take any measurements. Again, if I didn't transport bikes frequently in the vehicle, we could go as small as a C30; but the V60 would be very nice.
 
Sure enough XC70 has biggest cargo space behind second row seat, but by how much is bigger than V60 and XC60 and at same time is V60 has same space as XC60 or smaller/bigger?
Volvo doesn't show the important numbers are behind second row seats, just show a full cargo capacity. It's useless numbers since I have passengers when we travel.

Thanks
I have also been checking out the V60 and like to see real numbers and found these on a Volvo site. Hope this helps.

https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/models/v60/2014/specifications

V60
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE SECOND SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND SEATBACK (SAE L204-2) 748 mm
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE SECOND SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE HEIGHT OF THE FLOOR COVERING (SAE L202-2) 978 mm
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE FIRST SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE TOP OF THE FIRST SEATBACK (SAE L204-1) 1600 mm
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE FIRST SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE HEIGHT OF THE FLOOR COVERING (SAE L202-1) 1749 mm
REAR OPENING HEIGHT 658 mm
REAR OPENING HEIGHT (CAR CENTER LINE) (SAE H201) 742 mm
LUGGAGE FLOOR, HEIGHT TO GROUND 646 mm
WIDTH OF LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT BETWEEN WHEELHOUSES 1090 mm
REAR OPENING WIDTH UPPER, MIN. (GCIE W205) 923 mm
REAR OPENING WIDTH MAXIMUM (GCIE W206) 1095 mm
REAR OPENING WIDTH AT FLOOR, MIN. (GCIE W207) 1082 mm

XC60
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V211) 490 l / 33 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V211) 495 l / 39 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V212) 705 l / 33 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V212) 710 l / 39 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V214) 1450 l / 33 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V214) 1455 l / 39 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V215) 650 l / 33 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V215) 655 l / 39 l
LUGGAGE FLOOR, HEIGHT TO GROUND 748 mm
REAR OPENING HEIGHT 802 mm
HEIGHT OF LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT 802 mm
WIDTH OF LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT BETWEEN WHEELHOUSES 1130 mm
REAR OPENING WIDTH AT FLOOR, MIN. 1090 mm
REAR OPENING WIDTH AT BELT, MIN. 1034 mm
REAR OPENING MAXIMUM WIDTH 1165 mm
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE SECOND SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND SEATBACK / THE HEIGHT OF THE FLOOR COVERING 859 mm / 972 mm
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE FIRST SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE TOP OF THE FIRST SEATBACK / THE HEIGHT OF THE FLOOR COVERING 1695 mm / 1789 mm

XC70
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V211) 555 l / 28 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V211) 575 l / 46 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V212) 820 l / 28 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V212) 840 l / 46 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V214) 1580 l / 28 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V214) 1600 l / 46 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH SPARE WHEEL / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V215) 795 l / 28 l
LUGGAGE VOLUME,VARIANTS WITH REPAIR KIT / INCLUDING UNDER FLOOR VOLUME (ACCORDING TO ISO V215) 815 l / 46 l
LUGGAGE FLOOR, HEIGHT TO GROUND 697 mm
REAR OPENING HEIGHT 724 mm
HEIGHT OF LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT 801 mm
WIDTH OF LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT BETWEEN WHEELHOUSES 1130 mm
REAR OPENING WIDTH AT FLOOR, MIN. 1153 mm
REAR OPENING WIDTH AT BELT, MIN. 1193 mm
REAR OPENING MAXIMUM WIDTH 1223 mm
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE SECOND SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND SEATBACK - THE HEIGHT OF THE FLOOR COVERING 919 mm / 1089 mm
CARGO LENGTH FROM THE FIRST SEATBACK TO THE TAILGATE MEASURED AT THE TOP OF THE FIRST SEATBACK - THE HEIGHT OF THE FLOOR COVERING 1778 mm / 1878 mm
 
Discussion starter · #8 · (Edited)
Every summer we are traveling most cases on car, and we do variety things, city, hiking, water sports and ect.(of course we don't haul bikes), but so we are very pack with two kids. Last year we traveled around in the Quebec wildness and visit Montreal and Quebec for couple days each. So it's important easy load and high cargo capacity. Each extra cu Ft/ Liter would be used. Coming off from GM Acadia and after that Lexus Rx330, we found XC70 has nice cargo volume even compare to GM Acadia. Just as example: I do fly fishing trip to NY for salmon with friends (last 6-7 years), every year we have same 4 guys, we used always my cars, RX was fill completely up to roof liners, and XC70 was just slightly above rear seat back. Huge. I searched on internet and they show wrong numbers for RX330. I have real experience.
GM was too big for everyday driving, hard to park and it was really unnecessarily size car for normal life, same opinion about minivan like Honda or Toyota. The 2005 RX330 was too small due that slope curve roof at rear end of the car. So the load space was short even the trunk floor look big enough, because rear tail gate was a part of the roof.
So after 2/3 years that I sold RX330 and bought XC 70, my wife liked the size, it was nor big or small.
I'm afraid XC60 and V60 will have same issue as RX330 with tail gate as part of the roof, that slope makes look nice but taking a lot space from the cargo compartment. So this is reason I was looking for numbers. RX330 is about 16 to 17 cu ft (don't remember exactly, and XC70 is 21 cu Ft and it makes a lot more space (really huge difference), even it's only 4-5 cu ft. (if to believe those numbers).
I still can't get over the fact about XC90 less than Xc70. ????
I wish XC70 had little more leg room on rear seat, make a smaller dash board (1-2 inches), thinner fronts seats and it will add more leg room.
 
wantavolvo, Thanks for those numbers...I'll have to come back after I finish waking up ;). Unfortunately, I seldom haul those mm things in my vehicle. My cargo is usually made up of inches :)
Now, where is my calculator? ;)

So , over 50 years ago, we(USA) were going to switch to the metric system...so we were told. Wonder what happened to that?
 
So , over 50 years ago, we(USA) were going to switch to the metric system...so we were told. Wonder what happened to that?
It left for Canada and never came back. Something to do with Vietnam, I think.
 
The '72 wagon in my sig line was a shoebox with wheels! All sorts of space in the back of that box! No tapered roofline, glass all around...odd for a college age tennis instructor; but I could get almost all my belongings in it!
Ditto for my 1981 240 DL. Could put a sheet of 4' x 8' plywood back there. Or a full-sized harpsichord. But that's another story for another time.
 
Discussion starter · #12 · (Edited)
I did cals
V60- 21.4 cu ft
XC60- 27.4 cu ft
XC70 - 29.4 cu ft
XC90 - 36.4 cu ft
Now it makes sense, the big difference all these cars is height:

V60- 742 mm
XC60- 802 mm
XC70 - 801 mm
XC90 - 872 mm

Length:

V60- 748 mm
XC60- 859 mm
XC70 - 919 mm
XC90 - 1046 mm

Width:

V60- 1090 mm wheelhouses: and at floor 1082 mm
XC60- 1130 mm wheelhouses and at floor 1090 mm
XC70 - 1130 mm wheelhouses and at floor 1153 mm
XC90 - 1129 mm wheelhouses and at floor 1064 mm

So than
V60- 21.18 cu ft
XC60- 26.5 cu ft
XC70 - 29.97 cu ft
XC90 - 34.2 cu ft

But remember all that doesn't take slope tail gate for consideration on V60 and XC60. XC90 and XC70 has tail gate almost straight down with little convex shape. As I stated before I had same situation with RX330.
 
Comparing usability with numbers is tough. Best way to see the difference is look at all together as it will become obvious how the volumes differ. I looked at V60 last week and while the car is nice there is not much space behind rear seat because of sloping roof. Almost reminds me of a hatchback in terms of space. XC/V 70 is cavernous and will take most anything you give them. They are low, wide and very deep. I guess the height of the XC 90 is what gives it more volume than the 70's.
 
If those passengers have feet, only the XC70 is going to be comfy, IMO. Now, if the front seat folks have their seats all the way up, there is a chance. I'm only 5' 11" and I drive with the seat all the way back in the C70 and did in the XC60.
You must have the longest legs in the world of anyone 5'11"... :)

I'm 6'5" and I don't put the seat back all the way, not even close. And this has been true in every Volvo I've ever driven (P2 and P3 S60s, V50s, S40s, C30s, P2 and P3 S80s, P2 and P3 XC70s, XC90...)

Are you certain you're not sitting too far from the steering wheel? If you extend your arm fully, your wrist should rest on the top of the steering wheel. If you need to lean forward to rest your wrist on the top of the steering wheel, you're too far from the wheel (which will make the car harder to control in an emergency, the airbag won't be able to do it's job properly, etc). Similarly if your wrist is beyond the top of the wheel, you're sitting too close...
 
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