The Nubuck option is cheaper in Sweden than the leather. Shouldn't this only be the case if (a) Volvo got a great surplus deal of some sort or (b) the leather in the R-Design was aniline or semi-aniline or (c) the Nubuck was fake? Also, it's listed as Nubuck Textile virtually everywhere, another thing that has me wondering if it's genuine or not.
What's the straight story on R-Design Nubuck & Leather?
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The Nubuck option is cheaper in Sweden than the leather. Shouldn't this only be the case if (a) Volvo got a great surplus deal of some sort or (b) the leather in the R-Design was aniline or semi-aniline or (c) the Nubuck was fake? Also, it's listed as Nubuck Textile virtually everywhere, another thing that has me wondering if it's genuine or not.
The seats are a combination of leather and cloth, correct? Just like the early P2 T5 interiors, such as the Sisal interior I had on my 2001. Hence the cheaper price. I personally liked it better than full leather because it's grippier and breaths in the summer.
From just a few minutes in an RD at the Miami show, my impression was that it is a textile, meaning woven as opposed to an UltaSuede sort of thing. Looked great and had a good hand. But brought up questions of durability and resistance to dog slobber, Grey Poupon, spilled mojitos and all of the inevitable hazards of life. Consequently, I chose all leather.
That's how it appears when they say split textile/leather, but they are calling it "Nubuck textile." Nubuck is not a textile. Nubuck is a type of leather. In fact it's a very high end type of leather.
Source: http://leathershoppes.com/facts.html#.UsgmtPRDuB0
Also, Wikipedia
Hence my confusion. I have also found this:
Source: http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=180873
Edit: If it is fake, I feel like this is false advertising and I really don't know if I want it.
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Prestige Volvo has several 2014 S60 R-Design's with this interior option. Why not go see it in person?
Prestige Volvo has several 2014 S60 R-Design's with this interior option. Why not go see it in person?
Yeah, I'm going back down there today or Monday, but I don't really want to do the water test (nor do I think they'd want me to) because it leaves a permanent change in color if the Nubuck is authentic. I may just email Volvo CS, that's probably what I should have done in the first place but my malfunctioning brain didn't think of it till now.
Sent this: "Hello! I have pre-ordered a V60 R-Design and have a question about the interior options. On your website and in numerous other places, the phrasing "Nubuck textile" is used to describe the split seats option. I find this confusing since true nubuck is technically a leather. I am trying to find out whether the nubuck in these cars is genuine nubuck leather or if it is an artificial alternative similar to Alcantara or UltraSuede. Can you please let me know what the case is here? Thank you!"
I doubt it has anything to do with Nubuck leather...it maybe look like Nubuck or have the feel or texture, but I doubt it's the real thing...just a name the marketing dept. came up with.
After owning my 2001 S60 with split cloth/leather I would say its a great way to save money, has far fewer issues with wear over time than full leather seats and is much more comfortable in cold weather, hot weather, and even in the corners! But no it won't clean up with a liquid spill like real leather, however it doesn't scratch and mare like leather either.
After owning my 2001 S60 with split cloth/leather I would say its a great way to save money, has far fewer issues with wear over time than full leather seats and is much more comfortable in cold weather, hot weather, and even in the corners! But no it won't clean up with a liquid spill like real leather, however it doesn't scratch and mare like leather either.
Alcantara is great. Unfortunately, it too is pretty expensive. I thought this interior had originally been reported as being Alcantara, but someone either misspoke or I misread I guess. This stuff is definitely not as soft and velvety as Alcantara, which is more suede-like than nubuck-like.
No idé what its really is but the seats are great with the textile and leather, it looks good longer and isn´t that sensitive to heat or cold.
Leather seats get seriusly warm in the summer and very cold in the winter!
And futhermore you dont slide arround in the seats, its very "grippy"
Leather seats get seriusly warm in the summer and very cold in the winter!
And futhermore you dont slide arround in the seats, its very "grippy"
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Cold is not an issue as the heated seats work really well and fast. Plus, if you have Remote Engine Start, you can cool or warm the interior very effectively.No idé what its really is but the seats are great with the textile and leather, it looks good longer and isn´t that sensitive to heat or cold.
Leather seats get seriusly warm in the summer and very cold in the winter!
And futhermore you dont slide arround in the seats, its very "grippy"
With minus 20-40c its cold
(untill the heated seats have worked there magic) or in the summer when the sun has been on it i would say its very warmBut yes of i you got the VOC so u can start it before u go its perfect that i totaly agree with. sadly only PCC in my V40, regret not picking the VOC now especially in the winter.
Well, I got an answer and they are indeed fake Nubuck. Kind of wish I was getting the leather now, but I think it's a case of "the grass is always greener." If I had the leather, I'd wish I had more traction. With the "nubuck," I'll really wish I had the premium feel of the leather - especially since the "nubuck" isn't any cheaper here in the US.
edit 1: I find it interesting that even though I'm someone who kept asking Volvo for the Nubuck option to be available here, I'm still hit by the sense of "I'm spending over $50,000 on a car and it's going to have cloth seats."
edit 2: I'm also pretty disappointed in Volvo for calling a material something it's not. I think that's driving most of the negative feelings. I wanted the old split seats even when they weren't fake Nubuck, so these will be good.
edit 1: I find it interesting that even though I'm someone who kept asking Volvo for the Nubuck option to be available here, I'm still hit by the sense of "I'm spending over $50,000 on a car and it's going to have cloth seats."
edit 2: I'm also pretty disappointed in Volvo for calling a material something it's not. I think that's driving most of the negative feelings. I wanted the old split seats even when they weren't fake Nubuck, so these will be good.
Just remember Volvo has been using the "Nubuck" description for quite some time now on different interiors (many not available in the US), so you can probably see why they continue to use the term for consistency. In all honesty the highest quality leather doesn't really make for good car seats....just look at how hard R seats are too keep looking nice or original S60 T6 leather. The grass is always greener....until you get there and it's not! LOL
Don't dismay, I'm sure you will love the seats, and I would order these over the full leather as well if I were getting one.
Don't dismay, I'm sure you will love the seats, and I would order these over the full leather as well if I were getting one.
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